What I'm getting out of this exchange... (Jun 20, 2006)

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  1. From: "John R." Jun 20, 2006
  2. From: "Neil Morrison" Jun 20, 2006
  3. From: "Cyrano Jones" Jun 20, 2006
  4. From: Gary Clouse Jun 22, 2006
  5. From: "Neil Morrison" Jun 22, 2006
  6. From: "Cyrano Jones" Jun 23, 2006
  7. From: "John R." Jun 23, 2006


Subject: What I'm getting out of this exchange...

From: Mike Warns <mikewarns@...>

Jun 20, 2006

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1: Subject: Re: [mailstation] What I'm getting out of this exchange...

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From: "John R." <jhoger@...>

Jun 20, 2006

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From: "Neil Morrison" <neilsmorr@...>

Jun 20, 2006

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he codes etc? Couldn't hurt to ask.

Neil


From: Mike Warns

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From: "Cyrano Jones" <cyranojones_lalp@...>

Jun 20, 2006

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be capable of sucking up an unlimited amount of time! :-)



4: Subject: Re: [mailstation] What I'm getting out of this exchange...

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From: Gary Clouse <niklaus37217@...>

Jun 22, 2006

Is there such a beast as a mailstation emulator? The
would be the way to go for testing and debugging new
code..



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5: Subject: Re: [mailstation] What I'm getting out of this exchange...

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From: "Neil Morrison" <neilsmorr@...>

Jun 22, 2006

You'd need to analyze the code to make one. This sort of work has been done
before, as in the TRS-80 computers which were thoroughly analyzed.

Neil

From: Gary Clouse

would be the way to go for testing and debugging new
code..


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From: "Cyrano Jones" <cyranojones_lalp@...>

Jun 23, 2006

ilstation emulator? The
new

If anyone has one, they haven't said anything about
it here.=
But it sure would be cool!!!

I think we know enough about the mailstatio=
n hardware
to make one, but it is not a "one night" project.



7: Subject: Re: [mailstation] What I'm getting out of this exchange...

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From: "John R." <jhoger@...>

Jun 23, 2006

On 6/22/06, Gary Clouse <niklaus37217@...> wrote:

There would be less work to do to just develop code directly on real
hardware, given the existence of Mailbug, Z80 assemblers, C compilers
(like SDCC), etc. You would need to adapt the standard library to
mailstation but that's less work than having to reverse engineer and
document every component in the mailstation which is what would be
needed to make an emulator.

That said there are already CP/M emulators around which can run raw
Z80 code, so you could do testing for large swaths of code in a CP/M
environment.

Anyway it's more fun to develop on "the real thing." At least that's
my bias as an embedded systems developer. WIth mailbug you're doing
"target debugging" anyway, so you get the advantages of working on a
desktop while testing code on a real Mailstation.