From: Patrick Forbes <patrickforbes@...>
Apr 25, 2008
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I DID IT!!!!!
Of the three ISP outfits that actually replied to me, only one
finally came through. Offered a 30 day Money back guarantee, to boot!
I wiped the ROM then,
Press Power, Fn + Shift + T + Reset pin, then '3: F/A Tester' then
'6: Flash test'. When done, press Back then Q. It then asks for Reset
queries which you ignore as all was wiped any way. You'll then get:
"Please create a new user account." press Enter.
Then you fill in each field carefully:
User Name: Your name
Dial Up Number: supplied by the ISP dashes are for convention and are
ignored by systems
Reply -To: skip this if you'd like
E-mail address: you@...
E-mail Password: password
POP3 Server: mail.basicisp.net
SMTP Server: mail.basicisp.net
ISP Account: you@...
ISP Password: password
Primary DNS: 65.247.64.21
The information is supplied in a really strange file that Notepad
could open.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick Forbes
121 Lafayette Boulevard
Whitby, Ontario
L1P 1S4
905-666-0378
On 22-Apr-08, at 07:57 , mailstation@yahoogroups.com wrote:
There are 3 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
From: wayne markis
1b. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
From: Patrick Forbes
1c. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
From: Patrick Forbes
Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "wayne markis" waynem@... iwireless2001
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:00 am ((PDT))
The problem is that you can do that with the smaller mailstations,
but you can't do most of this with the model 350, which is the
only one that will allow you to get email graphics, and print
in color.
Although the Model 350 has more memory, it also has more
security for locking you from getting in to work on it.
It requires that it get an email from Earthlink to program itself
and move to a working account. The "special" email has
MIME control characters in it, which can not be sent over the
internet thru other ISP's since they are filtered out.
Only a direct connection to the ISP (Earthlink) will allow these
characters to be received by the machine.
The machine goes to a special account on Earthlink, which is the
serial number of the machine @earthlink . It receives the special
encoded message, and then changes to "Your" account.
You can not send a message to these "Special" accounts, Earthlink
will not pass the message. But you CAN log into these accounts,
and see what the mailstation is getting, except for the special
characters,
which you won't see or be able to print out.
You would think that Earthlink would be happy to add customers using
these
mailstations, but that does not seem to be the case ???
If you think the Indian call center is bad, wait a few more years until
Earthlink
finds a cheaper place to hire labor, and then they move it from India to
there !!!
As the big shots are making their millions at the top !!!
Wayne
From: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Patrick Forbes
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:32 AM
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Cc: musicalman77@...; djgizmo1@...
Subject: [mailstation] Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
Don't waste any more of your time with Earthlink. Attention
(Product Life)
spans are too short. No company wants to seriously support anything more
than five (5) years old, nowadays. We're pretty much on our own here.
I just
learned Cidco, who made the thing, filed for bankruptcy this past
January.
My calls and faxes to them for their engineering assistance went
unanswered
and I expect the letter I posted to them a week ago will be coming back
soon, too.
Regardless of your choices, chances you will lose all programmed
data are
pretty great. Please write down ALL programming information. Start with
'Extras', 'Settings' then 'Details' and ensure you've no typos. You will
most certainly be asked to "Create New User" where you'll need to
type it
all in just as you saw it:
User Name:
Dial Up Number:
E-mail address:
E-mail Password:
POP3 Server:
SMTP Server:
ISP Account:
ISP Password:
Primary DNS:
I photocopied all the screens and filed the copies for posterity. Six
years later I needed them!
Press FN, Shift and T with one hand and stick a pin in the Reset
hole in
the back. The Diagnostic Menu will appear.
Press the 3 for the F/A Tester. The five grey keys aren't
operational.
Select the test of your choice. Start with Fast Test. When it's done
press
the Reset again to get back to the Diag.... screen. Press Q to return
the
machine to operational status
If anyone else has additional tricks to share along this line, please
don't be shy. I have a working machine I can experiment with at will.
Verizon ($8.95/m), Look ($4.95/m), BasicISP and Mid-Maine have all
said
they 'may' be able to provide service. I'm waiting for more info from
them
to set up a trial with each on my machine.
More later.....
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:56 pm ((PDT))
Good luck with getting any kind of help out of Earthlink's big-wigs.
I think they are trying hard to wash their hands of MailStation. My
mom, also 90, had a problem with her machine. A friend who use to
work computer models four levels down from the (U.S.) President was
there the other day trying to remedy the trouble. He also spent
about
3 hours on the phone with..."those fools in India" (nicely put!) and
all to no avail. When pressed for information on repair or
replacement, they got rude.
So, I tried the online chat with Earthlink CS. After confirming the
persistent rumor that there are no NEW MailStation accounts being
established, they just kept referring me to the 800 number (aka
"fools
in India") and ASSURING me these folks would help. I kept insisting
we'd already tried that, and the argument became circular and a
standoff. So, I asked, "Well, what about repair or replacement"
(which they have done in the past) and was told, "She can buy a new
unit on her own." When I said that I understood that accounts were
not being transferred to new machines, I was referred to... you
guessed it... the fools in India. I finally gave up and told her
"Thanks for nothing."
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a
time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-
upped
for another year on the service.
I guess if the thing breaks, I'll hook her up with my old WebTV unit
(which is now MSN TV) and hope she can learn to use it.
An update:
3 hours on the phone with about a dozen attempts got account turned
back on despite
those incompetent fools in India and MailStation resumed operation.
That was all that was
wrong with her original unit.
Anyone have an actual address, telephone number and a bigwig's name
of Earthlink's HQ
wherever it is? I need compensation for these many months of no
service, grief and
frustration at the hands of those imbeciles they insist on calling
agents.
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Mailstation 5 months off line
Posted by: "Marcus Herrera" djgizmo1@... djgizmo1
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:26 pm ((PDT))
Talk about dealing those people. I was doing a system board
replacement.
I called and was transfered to them. I was getting upset because I
couldn't understand what they were saying. They could understand my
name, asked me to spell it out several times. Getting it wrong. I
ended
hanging up on them and call back hoping on getting a different
person.
Man how can't you not understand the name "marcus". Off shore call
centers sucks!!!
gizmo on sidekick
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2. Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:09 pm ((PDT))
I posted in part about this in the reply to Patrick, but would like
your ideas on any way to fix this problem (and like him, I'm in OK
and
the machine is in OH, but I may visit there mid-summer).
When I was visiting in December, I took the machine over to a
friend's
house because she had an old parallel-port printer. I wanted to
print
out Mom's address book for two reasons: 1) a planned e-mail
announcement by my sister to Mom's friends for her 90th birthday card
shower, and 2) paper backup in case her machine ever got wiped, as it
did once before. (You'd THINK they'd have a way to back up the
address book to the associated EarthLink webmail account, but that'd
be far too easy...)
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a
time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-
upped
for another year on the service.
Well, in the course of printing out the address book, this idiot
friend ignored my advice and tried to stuff more paper in the printer
during the print job, jamming it. I got it restarted, but this may
have glitched something in the MailStation, because once I got it
back
to Mom's, one of her groups stopped working and would freeze the
machine. We suspect a problem in the flash memory, like when you
pull
your jump drive out of the USB port as it's being accessed. I was
leaving that day and didn't have time to mess with it. So, so she
has
had two people look at it since - a young computer geek and an
old-time computer guru, and trying to fix it for her. The young guy
had limited time but agreed with the "flash memory" diagnosis. The
old guy spent hours, alone, and on the phone with India, trying to
fix
the problem. Now, apparently NONE of the groups are working at all
and they cannot set up any new mail groups.
Anybody have any ideas what's wrong or how to fix it without the
Indians being involved?
Thanks.
Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "Patrick Forbes" patrickforbes@... forbesp
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:15 pm ((PDT))
When I boot my MailStation and select 'Address Book' and press 'New,'
a choice of Individual or Groups appears. Select 'Groups' and name
it. It will then show the whole 'Groups' list to pick and choose
from. Press 'Add' and the Address Book list will appear from which
you may pick the Groups 'Members' you wish to add to that group.
Take a look.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
On 21-Apr-08, at 20:43 , Jon James wrote:
They've tried resetting EVERYTHING (both remotely by the Indians and
locally including the "pinhole" reset) and the groups still refuse to
function, which is what leads us to believe in the "bad flash memory
sector" theory. Maybe the whole memory needs to be reformatted, and
that's probably something only the Indians can do (if they even can).
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: musicalman77@...
Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 7:21 PM
Her 'Groups' will most certainly need to be re-programmed, I'm sorry
to say. Please remember the KISS Principle. I'm pretty sure she'll
enjoy a fully functional MailStation a bit more than the Web on TV.
Might be too many buttons to remember to push in the right order.
Yup. Mom is back on line. Just a stupid typo. Dumb indians!
So far, BasicISP is working with me to test their servers.......
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
On 21-Apr-08, at 19:51 , Jon James wrote:
Wow, Patrick. Thanks for the tech info. As it stands right now, the
machine and service are WORKING for individual e-mails, just not
groups, so she's content for now. If I visit Ohio this summer, I may
try this stuff. I have an old WebTV box and may take that with me
and set her up with that. She would have e-mail AND full web access
for the same annual service fee as the Earthlink e-mail thing. Hope
you got your mom all fixed up too.
Don't worry - I won't publish this anywhere, just print it out for my
own use.
Jon
From: Patrick
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Cc: musicalman77@..., djgizmo1@...
Date: Sunday, April 20, 2008, 12:31 PM
Don't waste any more of your time with Earthlink. Attention (Product
Life) spans are too short. No company wants to seriously support
anything more than five (5) years old, nowadays. We're pretty much on
our own here. I just learned Cidco, who made the thing, filed for
bankruptcy this past January. My calls and faxes to them for their
engineering assistance went unanswered and I expect the letter I
posted to them a week ago will be coming back soon, too.
Regardless of your choices, chances you will lose all programmed data
are pretty great. Please write down ALL programming information.
Start with 'Extras', 'Settings' then 'Details' and ensure you've no
typos. You will most certainly be asked to "Create New User" where
you'll need to type it all in just as you saw it:
User Name:
Dial Up Number:
E-mail address:
E-mail Password:
POP3 Server:
SMTP Server:
ISP Account:
ISP Password:
Primary DNS:
I photocopied all the screens and filed the copies for posterity. Six
years later I needed them!
Press FN, Shift and T with one hand and stick a pin in the Reset hole
in the back. The Diagnostic Menu will appear.
Press the 3 for the F/A Tester. The five grey keys aren't
operational. Select the test of your choice. Start with Fast Test.
When it's done press the Reset again to get back to the Diag....
screen. Press Q to return the machine to operational status
If anyone else has additional tricks to share along this line, please
don't be shy. I have a working machine I can experiment with at will.
Verizon ($8.95/m), Look ($4.95/m), BasicISP and Mid-Maine have all
said they 'may' be able to provide service. I'm waiting for more info
from them to set up a trial with each on my machine.
More later.....
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:56 pm ((PDT))
Good luck with getting any kind of help out of Earthlink's big-wigs.
I think they are trying hard to wash their hands of MailStation. My
mom, also 90, had a problem with her machine. A friend who use to
work computer models four levels down from the (U.S.) President was
there the other day trying to remedy the trouble. He also spent about
3 hours on the phone with..."those fools in India" (nicely put!) and
all to no avail. When pressed for information on repair or
replacement, they got rude.
So, I tried the online chat with Earthlink CS. After confirming the
persistent rumor that there are no NEW MailStation accounts being
established, they just kept referring me to the 800 number (aka "fools
in India") and ASSURING me these folks would help. I kept insisting
we'd already tried that, and the argument became circular and a
standoff. So, I asked, "Well, what about repair or replacement"
(which they have done in the past) and was told, "She can buy a new
unit on her own." When I said that I understood that accounts were
not being transferred to new machines, I was referred to... you
guessed it... the fools in India. I finally gave up and told her
"Thanks for nothing."
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
I guess if the thing breaks, I'll hook her up with my old WebTV unit
(which is now MSN TV) and hope she can learn to use it.
back on despite
That was all that was
of Earthlink's HQ
service, grief and
agents.
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Mailstation 5 months off line
Posted by: "Marcus Herrera" djgizmo1@... djgizmo1
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:26 pm ((PDT))
Talk about dealing those people. I was doing a system board replacement.
I called and was transfered to them. I was getting upset because I
couldn't understand what they were saying. They could understand my
name, asked me to spell it out several times. Getting it wrong. I ended
hanging up on them and call back hoping on getting a different person.
Man how can't you not understand the name "marcus". Off shore call
centers sucks!!!
gizmo on sidekick
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2. Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:09 pm ((PDT))
I posted in part about this in the reply to Patrick, but would like
your ideas on any way to fix this problem (and like him, I'm in OK and
the machine is in OH, but I may visit there mid-summer).
When I was visiting in December, I took the machine over to a friend's
house because she had an old parallel-port printer. I wanted to print
out Mom's address book for two reasons: 1) a planned e-mail
announcement by my sister to Mom's friends for her 90th birthday card
shower, and 2) paper backup in case her machine ever got wiped, as it
did once before. (You'd THINK they'd have a way to back up the
address book to the associated EarthLink webmail account, but that'd
be far too easy...)
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
Well, in the course of printing out the address book, this idiot
friend ignored my advice and tried to stuff more paper in the printer
during the print job, jamming it. I got it restarted, but this may
have glitched something in the MailStation, because once I got it back
to Mom's, one of her groups stopped working and would freeze the
machine. We suspect a problem in the flash memory, like when you pull
your jump drive out of the USB port as it's being accessed. I was
leaving that day and didn't have time to mess with it. So, so she has
had two people look at it since - a young computer geek and an
old-time computer guru, and trying to fix it for her. The young guy
had limited time but agreed with the "flash memory" diagnosis. The
old guy spent hours, alone, and on the phone with India, trying to fix
the problem. Now, apparently NONE of the groups are working at all
and they cannot set up any new mail groups.
Anybody have any ideas what's wrong or how to fix it without the
Indians being involved?
Thanks.
Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
1c. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "Patrick Forbes" patrickforbes@... forbesp
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:19 pm ((PDT))
Whoa! That sounds a wee bit fishy, if you don't mind the Canadian
vernacular. If a 'Group' worked, the others should if the others
still have 'valid' addresses with no defects (typos) in them.
Possible? Remember, it's only a computer. It's not that smart, eh.
Yeah, I understand. My Mom is back in Florida (but now on-line) and
I'm in Toronto. But I have amy own MailStation to play with, now. And
I am.......
Hey, I'm our organization's Guru and this is testing ME. And I beat
you with a 2,182 km separation. Ha!
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick Forbes
121 Lafayette Boulevard
Whitby, Ontario
L1P 1S4
905-666-0378
On 21-Apr-08, at 21:34 , Jon James wrote:
I'm 900 miles from the machine. However, I recall she had three
groups set up. Two of them still worked, but any attempt to access
the third locked up the machine, requiring the "pinhole" reset. I
suggested she just abandon the "bad" group, rename it something
similar, and start the bad group over. Apparently, it wouldn't let
them set up any new groups, and after the tech friend and the Indians
finished messing with it, NONE of the groups would work anymore and
it won't let them set up new groups, only individuals (which had to
all be re-input manually - apparenlty the Indians wiped everything).
As far as what they are telling me, groups just "don't work"
anymore. It's hard for me, from here and dealing with a 90-year-old
non-geek, to tell exactly what's going on.
"Who am I that You are mindful of me?"
(Based on Psalms 8:4)
From: Patrick Forbes <patrickforbes@...>
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: musicalman77@...
Cc: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 8:14 PM
When I boot my MailStation and select 'Address Book' and press 'New,'
a choice of Individual or Groups appears. Select 'Groups' and name
it. It will then show the whole 'Groups' list to pick and choose
from. Press 'Add' and the Address Book list will appear from which
you may pick the Groups 'Members' you wish to add to that group.
Take a look.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
On 21-Apr-08, at 20:43 , Jon James wrote:
They've tried resetting EVERYTHING (both remotely by the Indians and
locally including the "pinhole" reset) and the groups still refuse to
function, which is what leads us to believe in the "bad flash memory
sector" theory. Maybe the whole memory needs to be reformatted, and
that's probably something only the Indians can do (if they even can).
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: musicalman77@...
Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 7:21 PM
Her 'Groups' will most certainly need to be re-programmed, I'm sorry
to say. Please remember the KISS Principle. I'm pretty sure she'll
enjoy a fully functional MailStation a bit more than the Web on TV.
Might be too many buttons to remember to push in the right order.
Yup. Mom is back on line. Just a stupid typo. Dumb indians!
So far, BasicISP is working with me to test their servers.......
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
On 21-Apr-08, at 19:51 , Jon James wrote:
Wow, Patrick. Thanks for the tech info. As it stands right now, the
machine and service are WORKING for individual e-mails, just not
groups, so she's content for now. If I visit Ohio this summer, I may
try this stuff. I have an old WebTV box and may take that with me
and set her up with that. She would have e-mail AND full web access
for the same annual service fee as the Earthlink e-mail thing. Hope
you got your mom all fixed up too.
Don't worry - I won't publish this anywhere, just print it out for my
own use.
Jon
From: Patrick
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Cc: musicalman77@..., djgizmo1@...
Date: Sunday, April 20, 2008, 12:31 PM
Don't waste any more of your time with Earthlink. Attention (Product
Life) spans are too short. No company wants to seriously support
anything more than five (5) years old, nowadays. We're pretty much on
our own here. I just learned Cidco, who made the thing, filed for
bankruptcy this past January. My calls and faxes to them for their
engineering assistance went unanswered and I expect the letter I
posted to them a week ago will be coming back soon, too.
Regardless of your choices, chances you will lose all programmed data
are pretty great. Please write down ALL programming information.
Start with 'Extras', 'Settings' then 'Details' and ensure you've no
typos. You will most certainly be asked to "Create New User" where
you'll need to type it all in just as you saw it:
User Name:
Dial Up Number:
E-mail address:
E-mail Password:
POP3 Server:
SMTP Server:
ISP Account:
ISP Password:
Primary DNS:
I photocopied all the screens and filed the copies for posterity. Six
years later I needed them!
Press FN, Shift and T with one hand and stick a pin in the Reset hole
in the back. The Diagnostic Menu will appear.
Press the 3 for the F/A Tester. The five grey keys aren't
operational. Select the test of your choice. Start with Fast Test.
When it's done press the Reset again to get back to the Diag....
screen. Press Q to return the machine to operational status
If anyone else has additional tricks to share along this line, please
don't be shy. I have a working machine I can experiment with at will.
Verizon ($8.95/m), Look ($4.95/m), BasicISP and Mid-Maine have all
said they 'may' be able to provide service. I'm waiting for more info
from them to set up a trial with each on my machine.
More later.....
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:56 pm ((PDT))
Good luck with getting any kind of help out of Earthlink's big-wigs.
I think they are trying hard to wash their hands of MailStation. My
mom, also 90, had a problem with her machine. A friend who use to
work computer models four levels down from the (U.S.) President was
there the other day trying to remedy the trouble. He also spent about
3 hours on the phone with..."those fools in India" (nicely put!) and
all to no avail. When pressed for information on repair or
replacement, they got rude.
So, I tried the online chat with Earthlink CS. After confirming the
persistent rumor that there are no NEW MailStation accounts being
established, they just kept referring me to the 800 number (aka "fools
in India") and ASSURING me these folks would help. I kept insisting
we'd already tried that, and the argument became circular and a
standoff. So, I asked, "Well, what about repair or replacement"
(which they have done in the past) and was told, "She can buy a new
unit on her own." When I said that I understood that accounts were
not being transferred to new machines, I was referred to... you
guessed it... the fools in India. I finally gave up and told her
"Thanks for nothing."
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
I guess if the thing breaks, I'll hook her up with my old WebTV unit
(which is now MSN TV) and hope she can learn to use it.
back on despite
That was all that was
of Earthlink's HQ
service, grief and
agents.
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Mailstation 5 months off line
Posted by: "Marcus Herrera" djgizmo1@... djgizmo1
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:26 pm ((PDT))
Talk about dealing those people. I was doing a system board replacement.
I called and was transfered to them. I was getting upset because I
couldn't understand what they were saying. They could understand my
name, asked me to spell it out several times. Getting it wrong. I ended
hanging up on them and call back hoping on getting a different person.
Man how can't you not understand the name "marcus". Off shore call
centers sucks!!!
gizmo on sidekick
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2. Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:09 pm ((PDT))
I posted in part about this in the reply to Patrick, but would like
your ideas on any way to fix this problem (and like him, I'm in OK and
the machine is in OH, but I may visit there mid-summer).
When I was visiting in December, I took the machine over to a friend's
house because she had an old parallel-port printer. I wanted to print
out Mom's address book for two reasons: 1) a planned e-mail
announcement by my sister to Mom's friends for her 90th birthday card
shower, and 2) paper backup in case her machine ever got wiped, as it
did once before. (You'd THINK they'd have a way to back up the
address book to the associated EarthLink webmail account, but that'd
be far too easy...)
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
Well, in the course of printing out the address book, this idiot
friend ignored my advice and tried to stuff more paper in the printer
during the print job, jamming it. I got it restarted, but this may
have glitched something in the MailStation, because once I got it back
to Mom's, one of her groups stopped working and would freeze the
machine. We suspect a problem in the flash memory, like when you pull
your jump drive out of the USB port as it's being accessed. I was
leaving that day and didn't have time to mess with it. So, so she has
had two people look at it since - a young computer geek and an
old-time computer guru, and trying to fix it for her. The young guy
had limited time but agreed with the "flash memory" diagnosis. The
old guy spent hours, alone, and on the phone with India, trying to fix
the problem. Now, apparently NONE of the groups are working at all
and they cannot set up any new mail groups.
Anybody have any ideas what's wrong or how to fix it without the
Indians being involved?
Thanks.
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I DID IT!!!!!<div><br></div><div>Of t=
he three ISP outfits that actually replied to me, only one finally came thr=
ough. Offered a 30 day Money back=A0guarantee, to boot!</div><div>I wiped t=
he ROM then,</div><div>Press <b>Power</b>, <b>Fn</b> + <b>Shift</b> + <b>T<=
/b> + <b>Reset pin</b>, then '<b>3</b>: F/A Tester' then '<b>6</b>: Flash t=
est'. When done, press <b>Back</b> then <b>Q</b>. It then asks for Reset qu=
eries which you ignore as all was wiped any way. You'll then get:</div><div=
fill in each field carefully:</div><div><br></div><div><div>User Name: You=
r name</div><div>Dial Up Number: supplied by the ISP dashes are for convent=
ion and are ignored by systems</div><div>Reply -To: skip this if you'd like=
.net</a></div><div>E-mail Password: password</div><div>POP3 Server: mail.ba=
sicisp.net</div><div>SMTP Server: mail.basicisp.net</div><div>ISP Account: =
word:=A0password=A0</div><div>Primary DNS: 65.247.64.21</div><div><br></div=
ld open.</div><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collap=
se: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;=
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le=3D"border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetic=
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t: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing:=
0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spaci=
ng: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust=
: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div><div><div><br class=3D"=
Apple-interchange-newline">Please consider the environment before printing =
this email note.</div><div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></d=
iv></div>Patrick Forbes</div><div>121 Lafayette Boulevard</div><div>Whitby,=
Ontario</div><div>L1P 1S4</div><div>905-666-0378</div><br class=3D"Apple-i=
nterchange-newline"></span><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span> =
yahoogroups.com">mailstation@yahoogroups.com</a> wrote:</div><br class=3D"A=
pple-interchange-newline"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;=
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">There are 3 messages in this issue=
.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px=
; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Topics in =
this digest:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-=
bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"=
margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "=
">=A0 =A0</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; mar=
gin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
=A0 =A0 </span>From: wayne markis</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margi=
n-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1b. Re: Any Ideas abo=
ut this problem? <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0</span></div>=
n-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 </span>From: P=
atrick Forbes</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin=
-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1c. Re: Any Ideas about this problem? <sp=
an class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0</span></div><div style=3D"margin=
-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span=
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 </span>From: Patrick Forbes</div><=
div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin=
-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; ma=
rgin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">=
0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Messages</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margi=
n-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_____________________=
___________________________________________________</div><div style=3D"marg=
in-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1a.=
Re: Any Ideas about this problem?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; marg=
in-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple=
-converted-space">=A0 =A0 </span>Posted by: "wayne markis" <a href=3D"mailt=
o:waynem@...">waynem@...</a> iwireless2001</div><div st=
yle=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left:=
0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 </span>Date: Mon Apr =
21, 2008 9:00 am ((PDT))</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-=
left: 0px; ">The problem is that you can do that with the smaller mailstati=
ons,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px; ">but you can't do most of this with the model 350, =
which is the</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-=
bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">only one that will allow you to get email =
graphics, and print</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">in color.</div><div style=3D"margin=
-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-hei=
ght: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; ma=
rgin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Although the Model 350 has more memor=
y, it also has more</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">security for locking you from getti=
ng in to work on it.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;=
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left=
: 0px; ">It requires that it get an email from Earthlink to program itself<=
/div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">and move to a working account. The "special" email has<=
/div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">MIME control characters in it, which can not be sent ov=
er the</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom=
: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">internet thru other ISP's since they are filtere=
d out.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom=
: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin=
-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Only =
a direct connection to the ISP (Earthlink) will allow these</div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0p=
x; ">characters to be received by the machine.</div><div style=3D"margin-to=
p: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height=
: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margi=
n-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The machine goes to a special account on=
Earthlink, which is the</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">serial number of the machine @=
earthlink . It receives the special</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; mar=
gin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">encoded message, an=
d then changes to "Your" account.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margi=
n-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br=
; margin-left: 0px; ">You can not send a message to these "Special" account=
s, Earthlink</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-=
bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">will not pass the message.<span class=3D"A=
pple-converted-space">=A0 </span>But you CAN log into these accounts,</div>=
n-left: 0px; ">and see what the mailstation is getting, except for the spec=
ial characters,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; marg=
in-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">which you won't see or be able to print=
out.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom:=
0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-=
top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">You wo=
uld think that Earthlink would be happy to add customers using these</div><=
div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin=
-left: 0px; ">mailstations, but that does not seem to be the case ???</div>=
n-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; m=
argin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If you think the =
Indian call center is bad, wait a few more years until</div><div style=3D"m=
argin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">=
Earthlink</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bot=
tom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">finds a cheaper place to hire labor, and then=
they move it from India to</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-righ=
t: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">there !!!</div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0p=
x; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-righ=
t: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">As the big shots are making=
their millions at the top !!!</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-r=
ight: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></=
div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; m=
argin-left: 0px; ">Wayne</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-=
left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>-----Original=
Message-----</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin=
-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0=
hoogroups.com">mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com</a>]On</div><div style=3D=
"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">Behalf Of Patrick Forbes</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right=
: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-convert=
ed-space">=A0 </span>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:32 AM</div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0p=
x; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>To: <a href=3D"mailto=
:mailstation@yahoogroups.com">mailstation@yahoogroups.com</a></div><div sty=
le=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: =
0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>Cc: <a href=3D"mail=
to:musicalman77@...">musicalman77@...</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:dj=
gizmo1@...">djgizmo1@...</a></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px=
; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>Subject: [mailstation] Re: Any Ideas abo=
ut this problem?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; mar=
gin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0p=
x; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-righ=
t: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-conver=
ted-space">=A0 </span>Don't waste any more of your time with Earthlink. Att=
ention (Product Life)</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px=
; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">spans are too short. No company w=
ants to seriously support anything more</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px;=
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">than five (5) y=
ears old, nowadays. We're pretty much on our own here. I just</div><div sty=
le=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: =
0px; ">learned Cidco, who made the thing, filed for bankruptcy this past Ja=
nuary.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom=
: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">My calls and faxes to them for their engineering=
assistance went unanswered</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-righ=
t: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and I expect the letter I p=
osted to them a week ago will be coming back</div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">soon, too.=
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 1=
4px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-b=
ottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"m=
argin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">=
, chances you will lose all programmed data are</div><div style=3D"margin-t=
op: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">pretty =
great. Please write down ALL programming information. Start with</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-lef=
t: 0px; ">'Extras', 'Settings' then 'Details' and ensure you've no typos. Y=
ou will</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-botto=
m: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">most certainly be asked to "Create New User" wh=
ere you'll need to type it</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right=
: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">all in just as you saw it:</=
div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; m=
argin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0p=
x; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14p=
x; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bot=
tom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </s=
pan>User Name:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margi=
n-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
=A0 </span>Dial Up Number:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right=
: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-convert=
ed-space">=A0 </span>E-mail address:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; ma=
rgin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"App=
le-converted-space">=A0 </span>E-mail Password:</div><div style=3D"margin-t=
op: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span c=
lass=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>POP3 Server:</div><div style=3D"m=
argin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">=
le=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: =
0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>ISP Account:</div><=
div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin=
-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>ISP Password=
:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px=
; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>Prim=
ary DNS:</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bott=
om: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"marg=
in-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><sp=
an class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>I photocopied all the screens=
and filed the copies for posterity. Six</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px=
; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">years later I =
needed them!</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-=
bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"=
margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; m=
in-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0=
px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-=
space">=A0 </span>Press FN, Shift and T with one hand and stick a pin in th=
e Reset hole in</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; marg=
in-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the back. The Diagnostic Menu will appe=
ar.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0=
px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-to=
p: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height=
: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margi=
n-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
=A0 </span>Press the 3 for the F/A Tester. The five grey keys aren't operat=
ional.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom=
: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Select the test of your choice. Start with Fast =
Test. When it's done press</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right=
: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the Reset again to get back =
to the Diag.... screen. Press Q to return the</div><div style=3D"margin-top=
: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">machine t=
o operational status</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;=
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left=
: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-=
right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space">=A0 </span>If anyone else has additional tricks to share alo=
ng this line, please</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;=
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">don't be shy. I have a working mac=
hine I can experiment with at will.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; mar=
gin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><=
br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0=
px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-to=
p: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>Verizon ($8.95/m), Look ($4.95/m),=
BasicISP and Mid-Maine have all said</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; m=
argin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">they 'may' be abl=
e to provide service. I'm waiting for more info from them</div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0p=
x; ">to set up a trial with each on my machine.</div><div style=3D"margin-t=
op: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-heigh=
t: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; marg=
in-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=
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x; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>More later.....</div>=
n-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; m=
argin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "=
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>=
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-lef=
t: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin=
-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br>=
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>Patri=
ck</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0p=
x; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top=
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14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin=
-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0=
7@...</a> musicalman77</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-rig=
ht: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-conve=
rted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 </span>Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:56 pm ((PDT))</div>=
n-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; m=
argin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "=
0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>=
Good luck with getting any kind of help out of Earthlink's big-wigs.</div><=
div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin=
-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>I think they=
are trying hard to wash their hands of MailStation. My</div><div style=3D"=
margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "=
em with her machine.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>A frie=
nd who use to</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin=
-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0=
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>there=
the other day trying to remedy the trouble.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-=
space">=A0 </span>He also spent about</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; m=
argin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Ap=
ple-converted-space">=A0 </span>3 hours on the phone with..."those fools in=
India" (nicely put!) and</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right:=
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converte=
d-space">=A0 </span>all to no avail.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
=A0 </span>When pressed for information on repair or</div><div style=3D"mar=
gin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><s=
pan class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>replacement, they got rude.<=
/div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0=
px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14=
px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bo=
ttom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </=
span>So, I tried the online chat with Earthlink CS.<span class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space">=A0 </span>After confirming the</div><div style=3D"margin-top=
: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>persistent rumor that there are no =
NEW MailStation accounts being</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-r=
ight: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space">=A0 </span>established, they just kept referring me to the 80=
0 number (aka "fools</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;=
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce">=A0 </span>in India") and ASSURING me these folks would help.<span clas=
s=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>I kept insisting</div><div style=3D"=
margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "=
and the argument became circular and a</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"A=
pple-converted-space">=A0 </span>standoff.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-sp=
ace">=A0 </span>So, I asked, "Well, what about repair or replacement"</div>=
n-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>(which they=
have done in the past) and was told, "She can buy a new</div><div style=3D=
"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
"><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>unit on her own."<span c=
lass=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>When I said that I understood tha=
t accounts were</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; marg=
in-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
=A0 </span>not being transferred to new machines, I was referred to... you<=
/div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>guesse=
d it... the fools in India.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span=
right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-co=
nverted-space">=A0 </span>"Thanks for nothing."</div><div style=3D"margin-t=
op: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-heigh=
t: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; marg=
in-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0p=
x; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>Mom's only trouble is=
that she can no longer send to groups, and any</div><div style=3D"margin-t=
op: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span c=
lass=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>attempt to access her former grou=
ps freezes up the machine and it has</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; ma=
rgin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"App=
le-converted-space">=A0 </span>to be reset.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-s=
pace">=A0 </span>We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory.<span class=3D"A=
pple-converted-space">=A0 </span>I told her</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>to just live with sending individual =
e-mails or do her group people</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-r=
ight: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-con=
verted-space">=A0 </span>from individual e-mail (I think you can do three r=
ecipients at a time)</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;=
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-spa=
ce">=A0 </span>and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she jus=
t re-upped</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bo=
ttom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </=
span>for another year on the service.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; m=
argin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "=
0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-=
top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>I guess if the thing breaks, I'l=
l hook her up with my old WebTV unit</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; ma=
rgin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"App=
le-converted-space">=A0 </span>(which is now MSN TV) and hope she can learn=
to use it.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-b=
ottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"m=
argin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; mi=
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From: Patrick Forbes <patrickforbes@...>
Apr 27, 2008
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My most sincere apologies. I forgot to trim my previous note and add:
This applies to the Mivo 100 flavour of the Cidco DETI MailStation,
but I'm sure there is a wiping trick of some sort somewhere for the
350 that may accomplish the same thing. Maybe a variation on mine?
If you can get to the Diag screen and do a flash test, that should
get your Advanced settings open for input. To save yourself the time
I took, remember to write down the sequences that didn't work!
Attention Gurus out there.
Is there a 'Settings, Advanced' page you can get to on the 350? Does
it resemble what's below?
I DID IT!!!!! E-mails From, To and Replies back and forth to my Mac
and my Cell were ALL quite successful.
I now feel confident enough to move my mother from Earthlink to
BasicISP as Mid Maine is State wide only and Verizon seems to have
their call centre in India, too which explains their lack of
cooperation with my little request.
Of the three ISP outfits that actually replied to me, only one
finally came through. Offered a 30 day Money back guarantee, to boot!
I wiped the ROM by:
Press Power, Fn + Shift + T + Reset pin, then '3: F/A Tester' then
'6: Flash test'. When done, press Back then Q. It then asks for Reset
queries which you ignore as all was wiped anyway. You'll then get:
"Please create a new user account." press Enter.
Then you fill in each field VERY carefully as a single typo will mean
you start over. The password won't be displayed:
User Name: Your name
Dial Up Number: supplied by the ISP. Dashes are only for convention
and are ignored by the modem.
Reply -To: skip this if you'd like
E-mail address: you@...
E-mail Password: your password shown as **********
POP3 Server: mail.basicisp.net
SMTP Server: mail.basicisp.net
ISP Account: you@...
ISP Password: your password shown as **********
Primary DNS: 65.247.64.21 From them. You gotta ask for this. It's not
in that file they send.
The information is supplied by BasicISP in a really strange file that
only Notepad could open. You glean your required info from it.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
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sort somewhere for the 350 that may accomplish the same thing. Maybe a var=
iation on mine?</div><div>If you can get to the Diag screen and do a flash =
test, that should get your Advanced settings open for input. To save yourse=
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ift</b> + <b>T</b> + <b>Reset pin</b>, then '<b>3</b>: F/A Tester' then '<b=
ks for Reset queries which you ignore as all was wiped anyway. You'll then =
get:</div><div>"Please create a new user account." press <b>Enter</b>.</div=
you start over. The password won't be displayed:</div><div><br></div><div>=
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shown as **********</div><div>Primary DNS: 65.247.64.21 From them. You gott=
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otepad could open. You=A0glean=A0your required info from it.</div><div> <sp=
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ne">Please consider the environment before printing this email note.</div><=
div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div>Patrick</div><=
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From: "wayne markis" <waynem@...>
Apr 28, 2008
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What model Mailstation are you using for this ??
Wayne
From: mailstation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Patrick Forbes
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:04 PM
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mailstation] Re: Setting it up with a different ISP
I DID IT!!!!!
Of the three ISP outfits that actually replied to me, only one finally
came through. Offered a 30 day Money back guarantee, to boot!
I wiped the ROM then,
Press Power, Fn + Shift + T + Reset pin, then '3: F/A Tester' then '6:
Flash test'. When done, press Back then Q. It then asks for Reset queries
which you ignore as all was wiped any way. You'll then get:
"Please create a new user account." press Enter.
Then you fill in each field carefully:
User Name: Your name
Dial Up Number: supplied by the ISP dashes are for convention and are
ignored by systems
Reply -To: skip this if you'd like
E-mail address: you@...
E-mail Password: password
POP3 Server: mail.basicisp.net
SMTP Server: mail.basicisp.net
ISP Account: you@...
ISP Password: password
Primary DNS: 65.247.64.21
The information is supplied in a really strange file that Notepad could
open.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick Forbes
121 Lafayette Boulevard
Whitby, Ontario
L1P 1S4
905-666-0378
On 22-Apr-08, at 07:57 , mailstation@yahoogroups.com wrote:
There are 3 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
From: wayne markis
1b. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
From: Patrick Forbes
1c. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
From: Patrick Forbes
Messages
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1a. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "wayne markis" waynem@... iwireless2001
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:00 am ((PDT))
The problem is that you can do that with the smaller mailstations,
but you can't do most of this with the model 350, which is the
only one that will allow you to get email graphics, and print
in color.
Although the Model 350 has more memory, it also has more
security for locking you from getting in to work on it.
It requires that it get an email from Earthlink to program itself
and move to a working account. The "special" email has
MIME control characters in it, which can not be sent over the
internet thru other ISP's since they are filtered out.
Only a direct connection to the ISP (Earthlink) will allow these
characters to be received by the machine.
The machine goes to a special account on Earthlink, which is the
serial number of the machine @earthlink . It receives the special
encoded message, and then changes to "Your" account.
You can not send a message to these "Special" accounts, Earthlink
will not pass the message. But you CAN log into these accounts,
and see what the mailstation is getting, except for the special
characters,
which you won't see or be able to print out.
You would think that Earthlink would be happy to add customers using these
mailstations, but that does not seem to be the case ???
If you think the Indian call center is bad, wait a few more years until
Earthlink
finds a cheaper place to hire labor, and then they move it from India to
there !!!
As the big shots are making their millions at the top !!!
Wayne
From: mailstation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Patrick Forbes
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:32 AM
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Cc: musicalman77@...; djgizmo1@...
Subject: [mailstation] Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
Don't waste any more of your time with Earthlink. Attention (Product
Life)
spans are too short. No company wants to seriously support anything more
than five (5) years old, nowadays. We're pretty much on our own here. I
just
learned Cidco, who made the thing, filed for bankruptcy this past January.
My calls and faxes to them for their engineering assistance went
unanswered
and I expect the letter I posted to them a week ago will be coming back
soon, too.
Regardless of your choices, chances you will lose all programmed data
are
pretty great. Please write down ALL programming information. Start with
'Extras', 'Settings' then 'Details' and ensure you've no typos. You will
most certainly be asked to "Create New User" where you'll need to type it
all in just as you saw it:
User Name:
Dial Up Number:
E-mail address:
E-mail Password:
POP3 Server:
SMTP Server:
ISP Account:
ISP Password:
Primary DNS:
I photocopied all the screens and filed the copies for posterity. Six
years later I needed them!
Press FN, Shift and T with one hand and stick a pin in the Reset hole in
the back. The Diagnostic Menu will appear.
Press the 3 for the F/A Tester. The five grey keys aren't operational.
Select the test of your choice. Start with Fast Test. When it's done press
the Reset again to get back to the Diag.... screen. Press Q to return the
machine to operational status
If anyone else has additional tricks to share along this line, please
don't be shy. I have a working machine I can experiment with at will.
Verizon ($8.95/m), Look ($4.95/m), BasicISP and Mid-Maine have all said
they 'may' be able to provide service. I'm waiting for more info from them
to set up a trial with each on my machine.
More later.....
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:56 pm ((PDT))
Good luck with getting any kind of help out of Earthlink's big-wigs.
I think they are trying hard to wash their hands of MailStation. My
mom, also 90, had a problem with her machine. A friend who use to
work computer models four levels down from the (U.S.) President was
there the other day trying to remedy the trouble. He also spent about
3 hours on the phone with..."those fools in India" (nicely put!) and
all to no avail. When pressed for information on repair or
replacement, they got rude.
So, I tried the online chat with Earthlink CS. After confirming the
persistent rumor that there are no NEW MailStation accounts being
established, they just kept referring me to the 800 number (aka "fools
in India") and ASSURING me these folks would help. I kept insisting
we'd already tried that, and the argument became circular and a
standoff. So, I asked, "Well, what about repair or replacement"
(which they have done in the past) and was told, "She can buy a new
unit on her own." When I said that I understood that accounts were
not being transferred to new machines, I was referred to... you
guessed it... the fools in India. I finally gave up and told her
"Thanks for nothing."
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
I guess if the thing breaks, I'll hook her up with my old WebTV unit
(which is now MSN TV) and hope she can learn to use it.
An update:
3 hours on the phone with about a dozen attempts got account turned
back on despite
those incompetent fools in India and MailStation resumed operation.
That was all that was
wrong with her original unit.
Anyone have an actual address, telephone number and a bigwig's name
of Earthlink's HQ
wherever it is? I need compensation for these many months of no
service, grief and
frustration at the hands of those imbeciles they insist on calling
agents.
Messages in this topic (10)
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1b. Re: Mailstation 5 months off line
Posted by: "Marcus Herrera" djgizmo1@... djgizmo1
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:26 pm ((PDT))
Talk about dealing those people. I was doing a system board replacement.
I called and was transfered to them. I was getting upset because I
couldn't understand what they were saying. They could understand my
name, asked me to spell it out several times. Getting it wrong. I ended
hanging up on them and call back hoping on getting a different person.
Man how can't you not understand the name "marcus". Off shore call
centers sucks!!!
gizmo on sidekick
Messages in this topic (10)
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2. Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:09 pm ((PDT))
I posted in part about this in the reply to Patrick, but would like
your ideas on any way to fix this problem (and like him, I'm in OK and
the machine is in OH, but I may visit there mid-summer).
When I was visiting in December, I took the machine over to a friend's
house because she had an old parallel-port printer. I wanted to print
out Mom's address book for two reasons: 1) a planned e-mail
announcement by my sister to Mom's friends for her 90th birthday card
shower, and 2) paper backup in case her machine ever got wiped, as it
did once before. (You'd THINK they'd have a way to back up the
address book to the associated EarthLink webmail account, but that'd
be far too easy...)
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
Well, in the course of printing out the address book, this idiot
friend ignored my advice and tried to stuff more paper in the printer
during the print job, jamming it. I got it restarted, but this may
have glitched something in the MailStation, because once I got it back
to Mom's, one of her groups stopped working and would freeze the
machine. We suspect a problem in the flash memory, like when you pull
your jump drive out of the USB port as it's being accessed. I was
leaving that day and didn't have time to mess with it. So, so she has
had two people look at it since - a young computer geek and an
old-time computer guru, and trying to fix it for her. The young guy
had limited time but agreed with the "flash memory" diagnosis. The
old guy spent hours, alone, and on the phone with India, trying to fix
the problem. Now, apparently NONE of the groups are working at all
and they cannot set up any new mail groups.
Anybody have any ideas what's wrong or how to fix it without the
Indians being involved?
Thanks.
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________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "Patrick Forbes" patrickforbes@... forbesp
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:15 pm ((PDT))
When I boot my MailStation and select 'Address Book' and press 'New,'
a choice of Individual or Groups appears. Select 'Groups' and name
it. It will then show the whole 'Groups' list to pick and choose
from. Press 'Add' and the Address Book list will appear from which
you may pick the Groups 'Members' you wish to add to that group.
Take a look.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
On 21-Apr-08, at 20:43 , Jon James wrote:
They've tried resetting EVERYTHING (both remotely by the Indians and
locally including the "pinhole" reset) and the groups still refuse to
function, which is what leads us to believe in the "bad flash memory
sector" theory. Maybe the whole memory needs to be reformatted, and
that's probably something only the Indians can do (if they even can).
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: musicalman77@...
Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 7:21 PM
Her 'Groups' will most certainly need to be re-programmed, I'm sorry
to say. Please remember the KISS Principle. I'm pretty sure she'll
enjoy a fully functional MailStation a bit more than the Web on TV.
Might be too many buttons to remember to push in the right order.
Yup. Mom is back on line. Just a stupid typo. Dumb indians!
So far, BasicISP is working with me to test their servers.......
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
On 21-Apr-08, at 19:51 , Jon James wrote:
Wow, Patrick. Thanks for the tech info. As it stands right now, the
machine and service are WORKING for individual e-mails, just not
groups, so she's content for now. If I visit Ohio this summer, I may
try this stuff. I have an old WebTV box and may take that with me
and set her up with that. She would have e-mail AND full web access
for the same annual service fee as the Earthlink e-mail thing. Hope
you got your mom all fixed up too.
Don't worry - I won't publish this anywhere, just print it out for my
own use.
Jon
From: Patrick
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Cc: musicalman77@..., djgizmo1@...
Date: Sunday, April 20, 2008, 12:31 PM
Don't waste any more of your time with Earthlink. Attention (Product
Life) spans are too short. No company wants to seriously support
anything more than five (5) years old, nowadays. We're pretty much on
our own here. I just learned Cidco, who made the thing, filed for
bankruptcy this past January. My calls and faxes to them for their
engineering assistance went unanswered and I expect the letter I
posted to them a week ago will be coming back soon, too.
Regardless of your choices, chances you will lose all programmed data
are pretty great. Please write down ALL programming information.
Start with 'Extras', 'Settings' then 'Details' and ensure you've no
typos. You will most certainly be asked to "Create New User" where
you'll need to type it all in just as you saw it:
User Name:
Dial Up Number:
E-mail address:
E-mail Password:
POP3 Server:
SMTP Server:
ISP Account:
ISP Password:
Primary DNS:
I photocopied all the screens and filed the copies for posterity. Six
years later I needed them!
Press FN, Shift and T with one hand and stick a pin in the Reset hole
in the back. The Diagnostic Menu will appear.
Press the 3 for the F/A Tester. The five grey keys aren't
operational. Select the test of your choice. Start with Fast Test.
When it's done press the Reset again to get back to the Diag....
screen. Press Q to return the machine to operational status
If anyone else has additional tricks to share along this line, please
don't be shy. I have a working machine I can experiment with at will.
Verizon ($8.95/m), Look ($4.95/m), BasicISP and Mid-Maine have all
said they 'may' be able to provide service. I'm waiting for more info
from them to set up a trial with each on my machine.
More later.....
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:56 pm ((PDT))
Good luck with getting any kind of help out of Earthlink's big-wigs.
I think they are trying hard to wash their hands of MailStation. My
mom, also 90, had a problem with her machine. A friend who use to
work computer models four levels down from the (U.S.) President was
there the other day trying to remedy the trouble. He also spent about
3 hours on the phone with..."those fools in India" (nicely put!) and
all to no avail. When pressed for information on repair or
replacement, they got rude.
So, I tried the online chat with Earthlink CS. After confirming the
persistent rumor that there are no NEW MailStation accounts being
established, they just kept referring me to the 800 number (aka "fools
in India") and ASSURING me these folks would help. I kept insisting
we'd already tried that, and the argument became circular and a
standoff. So, I asked, "Well, what about repair or replacement"
(which they have done in the past) and was told, "She can buy a new
unit on her own." When I said that I understood that accounts were
not being transferred to new machines, I was referred to... you
guessed it... the fools in India. I finally gave up and told her
"Thanks for nothing."
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
I guess if the thing breaks, I'll hook her up with my old WebTV unit
(which is now MSN TV) and hope she can learn to use it.
An update:
3 hours on the phone with about a dozen attempts got account turned
back on despite
those incompetent fools in India and MailStation resumed operation.
That was all that was
wrong with her original unit.
Anyone have an actual address, telephone number and a bigwig's name
of Earthlink's HQ
wherever it is? I need compensation for these many months of no
service, grief and
frustration at the hands of those imbeciles they insist on calling
agents.
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Mailstation 5 months off line
Posted by: "Marcus Herrera" djgizmo1@... djgizmo1
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:26 pm ((PDT))
Talk about dealing those people. I was doing a system board replacement.
I called and was transfered to them. I was getting upset because I
couldn't understand what they were saying. They could understand my
name, asked me to spell it out several times. Getting it wrong. I ended
hanging up on them and call back hoping on getting a different person.
Man how can't you not understand the name "marcus". Off shore call
centers sucks!!!
gizmo on sidekick
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2. Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:09 pm ((PDT))
I posted in part about this in the reply to Patrick, but would like
your ideas on any way to fix this problem (and like him, I'm in OK and
the machine is in OH, but I may visit there mid-summer).
When I was visiting in December, I took the machine over to a friend's
house because she had an old parallel-port printer. I wanted to print
out Mom's address book for two reasons: 1) a planned e-mail
announcement by my sister to Mom's friends for her 90th birthday card
shower, and 2) paper backup in case her machine ever got wiped, as it
did once before. (You'd THINK they'd have a way to back up the
address book to the associated EarthLink webmail account, but that'd
be far too easy...)
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
Well, in the course of printing out the address book, this idiot
friend ignored my advice and tried to stuff more paper in the printer
during the print job, jamming it. I got it restarted, but this may
have glitched something in the MailStation, because once I got it back
to Mom's, one of her groups stopped working and would freeze the
machine. We suspect a problem in the flash memory, like when you pull
your jump drive out of the USB port as it's being accessed. I was
leaving that day and didn't have time to mess with it. So, so she has
had two people look at it since - a young computer geek and an
old-time computer guru, and trying to fix it for her. The young guy
had limited time but agreed with the "flash memory" diagnosis. The
old guy spent hours, alone, and on the phone with India, trying to fix
the problem. Now, apparently NONE of the groups are working at all
and they cannot set up any new mail groups.
Anybody have any ideas what's wrong or how to fix it without the
Indians being involved?
Thanks.
Messages in this topic (5)
________________________________________________________________________
1c. Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "Patrick Forbes" patrickforbes@... forbesp
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:19 pm ((PDT))
Whoa! That sounds a wee bit fishy, if you don't mind the Canadian
vernacular. If a 'Group' worked, the others should if the others
still have 'valid' addresses with no defects (typos) in them.
Possible? Remember, it's only a computer. It's not that smart, eh.
Yeah, I understand. My Mom is back in Florida (but now on-line) and
I'm in Toronto. But I have amy own MailStation to play with, now. And
I am.......
Hey, I'm our organization's Guru and this is testing ME. And I beat
you with a 2,182 km separation. Ha!
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick Forbes
121 Lafayette Boulevard
Whitby, Ontario
L1P 1S4
905-666-0378
On 21-Apr-08, at 21:34 , Jon James wrote:
I'm 900 miles from the machine. However, I recall she had three
groups set up. Two of them still worked, but any attempt to access
the third locked up the machine, requiring the "pinhole" reset. I
suggested she just abandon the "bad" group, rename it something
similar, and start the bad group over. Apparently, it wouldn't let
them set up any new groups, and after the tech friend and the Indians
finished messing with it, NONE of the groups would work anymore and
it won't let them set up new groups, only individuals (which had to
all be re-input manually - apparenlty the Indians wiped everything).
As far as what they are telling me, groups just "don't work"
anymore. It's hard for me, from here and dealing with a 90-year-old
non-geek, to tell exactly what's going on.
"Who am I that You are mindful of me?"
(Based on Psalms 8:4)
From: Patrick Forbes <patrickforbes@...>
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: musicalman77@...
Cc: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 8:14 PM
When I boot my MailStation and select 'Address Book' and press 'New,'
a choice of Individual or Groups appears. Select 'Groups' and name
it. It will then show the whole 'Groups' list to pick and choose
from. Press 'Add' and the Address Book list will appear from which
you may pick the Groups 'Members' you wish to add to that group.
Take a look.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
On 21-Apr-08, at 20:43 , Jon James wrote:
They've tried resetting EVERYTHING (both remotely by the Indians and
locally including the "pinhole" reset) and the groups still refuse to
function, which is what leads us to believe in the "bad flash memory
sector" theory. Maybe the whole memory needs to be reformatted, and
that's probably something only the Indians can do (if they even can).
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: musicalman77@...
Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 7:21 PM
Her 'Groups' will most certainly need to be re-programmed, I'm sorry
to say. Please remember the KISS Principle. I'm pretty sure she'll
enjoy a fully functional MailStation a bit more than the Web on TV.
Might be too many buttons to remember to push in the right order.
Yup. Mom is back on line. Just a stupid typo. Dumb indians!
So far, BasicISP is working with me to test their servers.......
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
On 21-Apr-08, at 19:51 , Jon James wrote:
Wow, Patrick. Thanks for the tech info. As it stands right now, the
machine and service are WORKING for individual e-mails, just not
groups, so she's content for now. If I visit Ohio this summer, I may
try this stuff. I have an old WebTV box and may take that with me
and set her up with that. She would have e-mail AND full web access
for the same annual service fee as the Earthlink e-mail thing. Hope
you got your mom all fixed up too.
Don't worry - I won't publish this anywhere, just print it out for my
own use.
Jon
From: Patrick
Subject: Re: Any Ideas about this problem?
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Cc: musicalman77@..., djgizmo1@...
Date: Sunday, April 20, 2008, 12:31 PM
Don't waste any more of your time with Earthlink. Attention (Product
Life) spans are too short. No company wants to seriously support
anything more than five (5) years old, nowadays. We're pretty much on
our own here. I just learned Cidco, who made the thing, filed for
bankruptcy this past January. My calls and faxes to them for their
engineering assistance went unanswered and I expect the letter I
posted to them a week ago will be coming back soon, too.
Regardless of your choices, chances you will lose all programmed data
are pretty great. Please write down ALL programming information.
Start with 'Extras', 'Settings' then 'Details' and ensure you've no
typos. You will most certainly be asked to "Create New User" where
you'll need to type it all in just as you saw it:
User Name:
Dial Up Number:
E-mail address:
E-mail Password:
POP3 Server:
SMTP Server:
ISP Account:
ISP Password:
Primary DNS:
I photocopied all the screens and filed the copies for posterity. Six
years later I needed them!
Press FN, Shift and T with one hand and stick a pin in the Reset hole
in the back. The Diagnostic Menu will appear.
Press the 3 for the F/A Tester. The five grey keys aren't
operational. Select the test of your choice. Start with Fast Test.
When it's done press the Reset again to get back to the Diag....
screen. Press Q to return the machine to operational status
If anyone else has additional tricks to share along this line, please
don't be shy. I have a working machine I can experiment with at will.
Verizon ($8.95/m), Look ($4.95/m), BasicISP and Mid-Maine have all
said they 'may' be able to provide service. I'm waiting for more info
from them to set up a trial with each on my machine.
More later.....
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:56 pm ((PDT))
Good luck with getting any kind of help out of Earthlink's big-wigs.
I think they are trying hard to wash their hands of MailStation. My
mom, also 90, had a problem with her machine. A friend who use to
work computer models four levels down from the (U.S.) President was
there the other day trying to remedy the trouble. He also spent about
3 hours on the phone with..."those fools in India" (nicely put!) and
all to no avail. When pressed for information on repair or
replacement, they got rude.
So, I tried the online chat with Earthlink CS. After confirming the
persistent rumor that there are no NEW MailStation accounts being
established, they just kept referring me to the 800 number (aka "fools
in India") and ASSURING me these folks would help. I kept insisting
we'd already tried that, and the argument became circular and a
standoff. So, I asked, "Well, what about repair or replacement"
(which they have done in the past) and was told, "She can buy a new
unit on her own." When I said that I understood that accounts were
not being transferred to new machines, I was referred to... you
guessed it... the fools in India. I finally gave up and told her
"Thanks for nothing."
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
I guess if the thing breaks, I'll hook her up with my old WebTV unit
(which is now MSN TV) and hope she can learn to use it.
An update:
3 hours on the phone with about a dozen attempts got account turned
back on despite
those incompetent fools in India and MailStation resumed operation.
That was all that was
wrong with her original unit.
Anyone have an actual address, telephone number and a bigwig's name
of Earthlink's HQ
wherever it is? I need compensation for these many months of no
service, grief and
frustration at the hands of those imbeciles they insist on calling
agents.
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Mailstation 5 months off line
Posted by: "Marcus Herrera" djgizmo1@... djgizmo1
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:26 pm ((PDT))
Talk about dealing those people. I was doing a system board replacement.
I called and was transfered to them. I was getting upset because I
couldn't understand what they were saying. They could understand my
name, asked me to spell it out several times. Getting it wrong. I ended
hanging up on them and call back hoping on getting a different person.
Man how can't you not understand the name "marcus". Off shore call
centers sucks!!!
gizmo on sidekick
Messages in this topic (10)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2. Any Ideas about this problem?
Posted by: "musicalman77" musicalman77@... musicalman77
Date: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:09 pm ((PDT))
I posted in part about this in the reply to Patrick, but would like
your ideas on any way to fix this problem (and like him, I'm in OK and
the machine is in OH, but I may visit there mid-summer).
When I was visiting in December, I took the machine over to a friend's
house because she had an old parallel-port printer. I wanted to print
out Mom's address book for two reasons: 1) a planned e-mail
announcement by my sister to Mom's friends for her 90th birthday card
shower, and 2) paper backup in case her machine ever got wiped, as it
did once before. (You'd THINK they'd have a way to back up the
address book to the associated EarthLink webmail account, but that'd
be far too easy...)
Mom's only trouble is that she can no longer send to groups, and any
attempt to access her former groups freezes up the machine and it has
to be reset. We suspect a bad spot in the flash memory. I told her
to just live with sending individual e-mails or do her group people
from individual e-mail (I think you can do three recipients at a time)
and be glad the thing is still working at all, since she just re-upped
for another year on the service.
Well, in the course of printing out the address book, this idiot
friend ignored my advice and tried to stuff more paper in the printer
during the print job, jamming it. I got it restarted, but this may
have glitched something in the MailStation, because once I got it back
to Mom's, one of her groups stopped working and would freeze the
machine. We suspect a problem in the flash memory, like when you pull
your jump drive out of the USB port as it's being accessed. I was
leaving that day and didn't have time to mess with it. So, so she has
had two people look at it since - a young computer geek and an
old-time computer guru, and trying to fix it for her. The young guy
had limited time but agreed with the "flash memory" diagnosis. The
old guy spent hours, alone, and on the phone with India, trying to fix
the problem. Now, apparently NONE of the groups are working at all
and they cannot set up any new mail groups.
Anybody have any ideas what's wrong or how to fix it without the
Indians being involved?
Thanks.
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rver:</DIV>
erver:</DIV>
ccount:</DIV>
Password:</DIV>
imary DNS:</DIV>
ce> </SPAN>I photocopied all the
screens and filed the copies for =
posterity. Six</DIV>
IV>
PAN>Press FN, Shift and T
with one hand and stick a pin in the Reset hol=
e in</DIV>
BR></DIV>
p; </SPAN>Press the 3 for the F/A
Tester. The five grey keys aren't oper=
ational.</DIV>
When it's done
press</DIV>
ag.... screen. Press Q to return
the</DIV>
status</DIV>
e-converted-space> </SPAN>If anyone else has
additional tricks to =
share along this line, please</DIV>
achine I can experiment with at
will.</DIV>
8.95/m), Look
($4.95/m), BasicISP and Mid-Maine have all said</DIV>
IV>they 'may' be able to provide service. I'm waiting for more info from
=
them</DIV>
sp; </SPAN>More later.....</DIV>
e=
nvironment before printing this email note.</DIV>
rted-space> </SPAN>musicalman77" <A
href=3D"mailto:musicalman77@ya=
hoo.com">musicalman77@<WBR>yahoo.com</A>
musicalman77</DIV>
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Date: Sat
Apr=
19, 2008 2:56 pm ((PDT))</DIV>
=
any kind of help out of Earthlink's big-wigs.</DIV>
pple-converted-space> </SPAN>I think they are trying
hard to wash =
their hands of MailStation. My</DIV>
pace> </SPAN>mom, also 90, had a
problem with her machine.<SPAN cl=
ass=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>A
friend who use to</DIV>
IV><SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>work computer models f=
our
levels down from the (U.S.) President was</DIV>
=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>there the other day
trying to rem=
edy the trouble.<SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space>
o spent about</DIV>
N>3 hours on the phone
with..."those fools in India" (nicely put!) and</=
DIV>
il.<SPAN
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>When pressed for in=
formation on
repair or</DIV>
</SPAN>replacement, they got
rude.</DIV>
tried the online
chat with Earthlink CS.<SPAN class=3DApple-converted-sp=
ace> </SPAN>After
confirming the</DIV>
converted-space> </SPAN>persistent rumor that
there are no NEW Mai=
lStation accounts being</DIV>
bsp; </SPAN>established, they just
kept referring me to the 800 number (=
aka "fools</DIV>
n India") and ASSURING
me these folks would help.<SPAN class=3DApple-con=
verted-space> </SPAN>I
kept insisting</DIV>
pple-converted-space> </SPAN>we'd already tried that,
and the argu=
ment became circular and a</DIV>
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPA=
N>So, I asked, "Well, what about
repair or replacement"</DIV>
AN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>(which they have done in
=
the past) and was told, "She can buy a new</DIV>
-converted-space> </SPAN>unit on her own."<SPAN
class=3DApple-conv=
erted-space> </SPAN>When I said that I understood that
accounts we=
re</DIV>
transferred to
new machines, I was referred to... you</DIV>
N class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>guessed it... the fools
in=
India.<SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>I finally gave up =
and
told her</DIV>
PAN>"Thanks for
nothing."</DIV>
IV><SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Mom's only trouble is =
that she can no longer send to groups, and any</DIV>
=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>attempt to access her
former grou=
ps freezes up the machine and it has</DIV>
rted-space> </SPAN>to be reset.<SPAN
class=3DApple-converted-space=
memory.<SPAN class=3DA=
pple-converted-space> </SPAN>I told her</DIV>
ple-converted-space> </SPAN>to just live with sending
individual e=
-mails or do her group people</DIV>
ace> </SPAN>from individual e-mail (I
think you can do three recip=
ients at a time)</DIV>
SPAN>and be glad the thing is
still working at all, since she just re-up=
ped</DIV>
her year on the
service.</DIV>
V><SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>I guess if the thing
=
breaks, I'll hook her up with my old WebTV unit</DIV>
=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>(which is now MSN TV) and
hope sh=
e can learn to use it.</DIV>
AN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>--- In <A
href=3D"mailto:=
mailstation@yahoogroups.com">mailstation@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>,
=
"Patrick Forbes"</DIV>
=
V><BR></DIV>
N>An update:</DIV>
=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>3 hours on the
phone with =
about a dozen attempts got account turned</DIV>
converted-space> </SPAN>back on despite</DIV>
ple-converted-space> </SPAN>those incompetent
fools in Indi=
a and MailStation resumed operation.</DIV>
rted-space> </SPAN>That was all that
was</DIV>
=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>wrong with her
original un=
it.</DIV>
nverted-space> </SPAN>Anyone have an
actual address, teleph=
one number and a bigwig's name</DIV>
pace> </SPAN>of Earthlink's HQ</DIV>
rted-space> </SPAN>wherever it is? I
need compensation for =
these many months of no</DIV>
bsp; </SPAN>service, grief and</DIV>
pace> </SPAN>frustration at the
hands of those imbeciles th=
ey insist on calling</DIV>
; </SPAN>agents.</DIV>
=
essages in this topic
(10)</DIV>
ace>
ass=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>1b. Re: Mailstation 5
months o=
ff line</DIV>
p; </SPAN>Posted by:
"Marcus Herrera" <A
href=3D"mailto:djgizmo1@yaho=
o.com">djgizmo1@yahoo.<WBR>com</A> djgizmo1</DIV>
e-converted-space> </SPAN>Date: Sat
Apr 19, 2008 3:2=
6 pm ((PDT))</DIV>
=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Talk about dealing those
people. =
I was doing a system board replacement.</DIV>
nverted-space> </SPAN>I called and was
transfered to them. I was g=
etting upset because I</DIV>
sp; </SPAN>couldn't understand what
they were saying. They could underst=
and my</DIV>
asked me to spell
it out several times. Getting it wrong. I ended</DIV>=
m and
call back hoping on getting a different person.</DIV>
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Man how can't you not
under=
stand the name "marcus". Off shore call</DIV>
nverted-space> </SPAN>centers sucks!!!</DIV>
le-converted-space> </SPAN>gizmo on sidekick</DIV>
=
Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Messages in this topic
(10)</DIV>
=
_________<WBR>_________<WBR>_________<WBR>_________<WBR>_________<WBR>_____=
____<WBR>______</DIV>
=
nverted-space> </SPAN>2. Any Ideas about this
problem?</DIV>
V><SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Posted by=
:
"musicalman77" <A
href=3D"mailto:musicalman77@...">musicalman=
77@<WBR>yahoo.com</A>
musicalman77</DIV>
erted-space> </SPAN>Date: Sat
Apr 19, 2008 3:09 pm (=
(PDT))</DIV>
-converted-space> </SPAN>I posted in part about
this in the reply =
to Patrick, but would like</DIV>
fix this problem (and like him, =
I'm in OK and</DIV>
N>the machine is in OH, but
I may visit there mid-summer).</DIV>
sp; </SPAN>When I was visiting in
December, I took the machine over to a=
friend's</DIV>
use because she had an
old parallel-port printer.<SPAN class=3DApple-con=
verted-space> </SPAN>I
wanted to print</DIV>
Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>out Mom's address book
for two reaso=
ns: 1) a planned e-mail</DIV>
bsp; </SPAN>announcement by my sister
to Mom's friends for her 90th birt=
hday card</DIV>
ower, and 2) paper
backup in case her machine ever got wiped, as it</DIV=
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>(You'd THINK they'd ha=
ve a way to
back up the</DIV>
associated EarthLink webmail account,=
but that'd</DIV>
be far too easy...)</DIV>
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Mom's only trouble is
that s=
he can no longer send to groups, and any</DIV>
onverted-space> </SPAN>attempt to access her
former groups freezes=
up the machine and it has</DIV>
bad spot in the flash memory. I=
told her</DIV>
just live with sending
individual e-mails or do her group people</DIV>
=
mail (I
think you can do three recipients at a time)</DIV>
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>and be glad the thing is
sti=
ll working at all, since she just re-upped</DIV>
-converted-space> </SPAN>for another year on the
service.</DIV>
=
e> </SPAN>Well, in the course of
printing out the address book, th=
is idiot</DIV>
end ignored my advice
and tried to stuff more paper in the printer</DIV>=
job,
jamming it.<SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>I got =
it restarted,
but this may</DIV>
ace> </SPAN>have glitched something
in the MailStation, because on=
ce I got it back</DIV>
SPAN>to Mom's, one of her
groups stopped working and would freeze the</D=
IV>
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>We suspect a problem in the =
flash
memory, like when you pull</DIV>
ted-space> </SPAN>your jump drive out of
the USB port as it's bein=
g accessed.<SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space>
and
didn't have time to mess with it.<SPAN class=3DApple-converted-space=
-space> </SPAN>had two people look at it
since - a young computer =
geek and an</DIV>
old-time computer guru,
and trying to fix it for her.<SPAN class=3DApple=
-converted-space>
Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>had limited time but
agreed with the=
"flash memory" diagnosis.<SPAN
class=3DApple-converted-space> </S=
PAN>The</DIV>
guy spent hours,
alone, and on the phone with India, trying to fix</DIV>=
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Now, apparently NONE of the=
groups
are working at all</DIV>
ace> </SPAN>and they cannot set up
any new mail groups.</DIV>
IV><BR></DIV>
</SPAN>Anybody have any ideas
what's wrong or how to fix it witho=
ut the</DIV>
ns being
involved?</DIV>
N class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Thanks.</DIV>
V>
IV>
____<WBR>_________<WBR>_________<WBR>______</DIV>
about this problem?</DIV>
</SPAN>Posted by:
"Patrick Forbes" <A
href=3D"mailto:patrickf=
orbes@...">patrickforbes@<WBR>mac.com</A>
forbesp</DIV>
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Date: Mon Apr 21,
20=
08 6:15 pm ((PDT))</DIV>
n and select 'Address Book' and press 'New,'
ed-space> </SPAN></DIV>
s. Select 'Groups' and name <SPAN
class=3DApple-converted-space> </=
SPAN></DIV>
d choose <SPAN
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
from. Press 'Add' and the Address Book list will appear from which <SPAN
=
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
Groups 'Members' you wish to add to that group.</DIV>
DIV>
ng this email note.</DIV>
/DIV>
ns and
cally including the "pinhole" reset) and the groups still refuse to
N class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
is what leads us to believe in the "bad flash memory
-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
ple-converted-space> </SPAN>Maybe the
whole memory needs to be ref=
ormatted, and <SPAN
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN></DIV>
=
can=
).</DIV>
Ideas about this
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From: Patrick Forbes <patrickforbes@...>
Apr 29, 2008
The Mivo 100 or DETI MailStation
Patrick
From: "wd5hyq" <gary@...>
Jul 17, 2008
So has anyone had any luck in getting the 350 to work with a different
ISP?=
I have read a few threads in this group about the 350, but the 100
and =
other mailstations seem to migrate into the 350 discussion, which
makes it =
very difficult to keep seperate.
I thought that I had the instructions o=
n a couple of different
threads and after rereading them, i am no longer su=
re that they apply
to the 350!
From: "wayne markis" <waynem@...>
Jul 18, 2008
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Far as I know, nobody has had any luck on the 350 unit. I have several of
them,
and have not been able to change anything on them. I did mess with the
Eprom
on one of them, and now it will not do anything !!! (Don't erase the
memory)
If anybody knows anything, please let us know !!!!
Wayne
Iwireless
From: mailstation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of wd5hyq
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:42 PM
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mailstation] Re: Setting it up with a different ISP
So has anyone had any luck in getting the 350 to work with a different
ISP?
I have read a few threads in this group about the 350, but the 100
and other mailstations seem to migrate into the 350 discussion, which
makes it very difficult to keep seperate.
I thought that I had the instructions on a couple of different
threads and after rereading them, i am no longer sure that they apply
to the 350!
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I know, nobody has had any luck o=
n the 350 unit. I have several of
them,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
AN class=3D064005318-18072008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>a=
nd
have not been able to change anything on them. I did mess with th=
e
Eprom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
ce=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>on one
of them, and now it will not do=
anything !!! (Don't erase the
memory)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2><=
/FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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anybody knows anything, please let us=
know !!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
N class=3D064005318-18072008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2>W=
ayne</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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T></SPAN> </DIV>
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[mailto:mailstation@yaho=
ogroups.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>wd5hyq<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, July 17=
, 2008 6:42 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
mailstation@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:<=
/B> [mailstation] Re: Setting it up
with a different ISP<BR><BR></FONT><=
/DIV>
350 to work with a
different<BR>ISP?<BR><BR>I have read a few threads i=
n this group about the
350, but the 100<BR>and other mailstations seem t=
o migrate into the 350
discussion, which<BR>makes it very difficult to k=
eep seperate.<BR><BR>I
thought that I had the instructions on a couple o=
f different<BR>threads and
after rereading them, i am no longer sure tha=
t they apply<BR>to the
350!<BR><BR></P></DIV><!--End group email --></BL=
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From: Patrick Forbes <patrickforbes@...>
Jul 18, 2008
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I did, with a 100.
I'd suggest, after my successful experimentation with my 100, that
you try anything that takes you to its ROM test, or something to that
effect.
If you manage to get that done, the account data should be erased.
When you power it back on, you should get something like "Create New
Account"
Fill in the fields with the info I previously provided in this board
that you get from BasicISP. That should work.
Contact me for additional assistance, if you need.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
1a. Re: Setting it up with a different ISP
Posted by: "wd5hyq" gary@... wd5hyq
Date: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:41 pm ((PDT))
So has anyone had any luck in getting the 350 to work with a
different ISP?
I have read a few threads in this group about the 350, but the 100
and other mailstations seem to migrate into the 350 discussion, which
makes it very difficult to keep seperate.
I thought that I had the instructions on a couple of different
threads and after rereading them, i am no longer sure that they apply
to the 350!
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it-line-break: after-white-space; ">
I did, with a 100.<div>I'd suggest, af=
ter my=A0successful=A0experimentation with my 100, that you try anything th=
at takes you to its ROM test, or something to that effect.<div>If you manag=
e to get that done, the account data should be erased. When you power it ba=
ck on, you should get something like "Create New Account"</div><div>Fill in=
the fields with the info I previously provided in this board that you get =
from BasicISP. That should work.</div><div>Contact me for additional assist=
ance, if you need.<br><div> <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"borde=
r-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-siz=
e: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; let=
ter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; tex=
t-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-s=
pacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertica=
l-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size=
-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><div><div><div><br clas=
s=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">Please consider the environment before prin=
ting this email note.</div><div><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></di=
v></div></div>Patrick</div><div><br></div></span></div><div><div style=3D"m=
argin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">=
1a. Re: Setting it up with a different ISP</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0=
px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class=
=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 </span>Posted by: "wd5hyq" <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:gary@...">gary@...</a> wd5hyq</div><div style=3D"margin-=
top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 </span>Date: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:41 =
pm ((PDT))</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bo=
ttom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">S=
o has anyone had any luck in getting the 350 to work with a different=A0ISP=
?</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px=
; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>I have read a few threads in this gr=
oup about the 350, but the 100=A0and other mailstations seem to migrate int=
o the 350 discussion, which</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-righ=
t: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">makes it very difficult to =
keep seperate.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margi=
n-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=
=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0p=
x; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 </span>I thought that I had =
the instructions on a couple of different=A0threads and after rereading the=
m, i am no longer sure that they apply=A0to the 350!</div></div></div></div=
From: "wayne markis" <waynem@...>
Jul 18, 2008
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The setup for the model 100 is NOT the same as the Model 350.
What you can easily do on the 100 you can NOT do on the 350.
So far, I have not found or heard of anyone getting a Model 350 to
change and work on a new ISP or change the "Account Data"
in it.
If you do a ROM test on the Model 350, it wipes out ALL the
data on the unit, and it will NOT run anymore !!!! Be warned !!!!
Wayne
From: mailstation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Patrick Forbes
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:45 PM
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Cc: gary@...
Subject: [mailstation] Re: Setting it up with a different ISP
I did, with a 100.
I'd suggest, after my successful experimentation with my 100, that you try
anything that takes you to its ROM test, or something to that effect.
If you manage to get that done, the account data should be erased. When
you power it back on, you should get something like "Create New Account"
Fill in the fields with the info I previously provided in this board that
you get from BasicISP. That should work.
Contact me for additional assistance, if you need.
Please consider the environment before printing this email note.
Patrick
1a. Re: Setting it up with a different ISP
Posted by: "wd5hyq" gary@... wd5hyq
Date: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:41 pm ((PDT))
So has anyone had any luck in getting the 350 to work with a different
ISP?
I have read a few threads in this group about the 350, but the 100 and
other mailstations seem to migrate into the 350 discussion, which
makes it very difficult to keep seperate.
I thought that I had the instructions on a couple of different threads
and after rereading them, i am no longer sure that they apply to the 350!
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Arial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>The
setup for the model 100 is NOT the same=
as the Model 350.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
8><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
DIV><SPAN class=3D310322522-18072008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff siz=
e=3D2>What
you can easily do on the 100 you can NOT do on the 350.</FONT><=
/SPAN></DIV>
=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
2-18072008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>So
far, I have not =
found or heard of anyone getting a Model 350
to</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
SPAN class=3D310322522-18072008><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
and work on a new ISP or change the "Account Data"</FONT></SPAN></=
DIV>
ff size=3D2>in
it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
08><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
=
ze=3D2>If you
do a ROM test on the Model 350, it wipes out ALL the </FONT>=
r=3D#0000ff size=3D2>data
on the unit, and it will NOT run anymore !!!!&nb=
sp; Be warned
!!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
08></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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From:</B> mailstation@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailstation@...=
m]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Patrick
Forbes<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 18, 20=
08 2:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
mailstation@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> gary@=
wd5hyq.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[mailstation] Re: Setting it up with a dif=
ferent ISP<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
00.
with my
100, that you try anything that takes you to its ROM test, or so=
mething to
that effect.
nt data should be erased. When
you power it back on, you should get some=
thing like "Create New Account"</DIV>
fo I previously provided in this board that
you get from BasicISP. That =
should work.</DIV>
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DIV>Patrick</DIV>
ting it up with a different ISP</DIV>
space> </SPAN>Posted by:
"wd5hyq" <A href=3D"mailto:gary@wd=
5hyq.com">gary@wd5hyq.<WBR>com</A>
wd5hyq</DIV>
-converted-space> </SPAN>Date: Thu Jul 17,
2008 6:41 pm ((P=
DT))</DIV>
he 350 to work with a
different ISP?</DIV>
s
in this group about the 350, but the 100 and other mailstations s=
eem to
migrate into the 350 discussion, which</DIV>
difficult to keep seperate.</DIV>
pple-converted-space> </SPAN>I thought that I had the
instructions=
on a couple of different threads and after rereading them, i
am no=
longer sure that they apply to the 350!</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>