From: "jondkirwan" <jonk@...>
Oct 4, 2009
I picked up a couple of MailStation 120's when they were $9/each, a while b=
ack (three years or more?) Sitting on a shelf, so far. I'm interested in =
using the LCD display, keyboard, power system (battery or wall wart) and ca=
se, of course, as part of a new homebrew device that will use a new CPU (de=
solder the old one, replace it.)
I didn't even know this group existed, un=
til today. Certainly sounds like a start was made here, though there hasn'=
t been much traffic in about a year, now. I just looked over some of the d=
ocumentation and did find something on the LCD (in .DOC form) here. (Proba=
bly applies to the 120, but I'm not sure yet.) A 320x128 graphics LCD is f=
ine for my use, if that's what it is.
What I'm looking for is the more acc=
urate information on schematics, processor pinout and mother board signal a=
ssignments to it, etc., that might relate or help in working out a daughter=
board I can use to replace the CPU unit, together with functional pin descr=
iptions so that I can make reasoned assignments for the new drop-in CPU. I=
don't need to know what the old CPU actually was, unless it relates to ada=
pting a new one. I just need to know the Vcc supply voltage and current co=
mpliance and any special considerations other than that.
My board apparent=
ly uses a Conexant RC224ATL modem/fax chip inside, but for now I don't plan=
on using it much. I may, later on, want to use it in conjunction with PCI=
modem boards I still own for PC desktop computers. But not for now. I ma=
y instead set up a USB based custom adapter that attaches to the printer po=
rt for PC communications. Assuming there is enough information available a=
t this point to do much, at all. If not, I've got enough work ahead that i=
t will have to wait for Christmas time.
I am decidedly NOT interested in j=
ust adapting this for dialup access to existing services, using the existin=
g software on the unit. That is of no interest, at all. I'll do the O/S a=
nd application software for it.
Can anyone give me a boost up on this? Or=
has very little really been worked out for these, as yet?
Sorry to distur=
b the lull, but I'm kind of curious about the possibilities and hopeful tha=
t there may be others who can help me skip over some difficulties and who m=
ay also be interested in results I gather over time. If it's all dead now,=
that's fine. I'll just take my time and see where it takes me.
Thanks ve=
ry much to all,
Jon
From: "cyranojones_lalp" <cyranojones_lalp@...>
Oct 4, 2009
=
while back (three years or more?)
If you mean when Officemax blew them o=
ut, that was about
4.5 years ago now. Wow, time flies, huh? :-)
st looked over some of the documentation and did
CD (in .DOC form) here.
yet.)
That doc is kinda old now, it has not been updated
regarding the L=
CD in the "new 120" & "new 150".
The original 120 was in a purple case, a=
nd has LCD
as described in that doc. The "new 120" is in a dark
grey case=
and has a different LCD.
rmation on
Did you=
see
(URL)files/RSDRD=
_3SI176_0A.txt
(There is supposed to be a space in "part files", in case
y=
ahoo mangles the url and you need to paste it back together.)
d to know the Vcc supply voltage and current
considerations other than that.
As far as I remember, it is 5 volt. I dun=
no about current,
"low" is my guess. :-)
nexant RC224ATL modem/fax chip
I think that is the modem in the "new 120"=
, and only
2400 baud, versus 33k in the "older" models.
me a boost up on this? Or has very little
hese, as yet?
I'd say quite a bit has been worked out, as far as documenti=
ng
the hardware (and software). It's the "new development"
department that=
is kinda lacking! :-) :-)
I've been meani=
ng to create a new account, and try to post, 'coz
I was getting pretty sure=
the group was broked! Now I
don't have to! Thanks!!!
CJ
From: "Donald H" <donhamilton2002@...>
Oct 4, 2009
picked up a couple of MailStation 120's when they were $9/each, a while bac=
k (three years or more?) Sitting on a shelf, so far. I'm interested in us=
ing the LCD display, keyboard, power system (battery or wall wart) and case=
, of course, as part of a new homebrew device that will use a new CPU (deso=
lder the old one, replace it.)
until today. Certainly sounds like a start was made here, though there has=
n't been much traffic in about a year, now. I just looked over some of the=
documentation and did find something on the LCD (in .DOC form) here. (Pro=
bably applies to the 120, but I'm not sure yet.) A 320x128 graphics LCD is=
fine for my use, if that's what it is.
re accurate information on schematics, processor pinout and mother board si=
gnal assignments to it, etc., that might relate or help in working out a da=
ughterboard I can use to replace the CPU unit, together with functional pin=
descriptions so that I can make reasoned assignments for the new drop-in C=
PU. I don't need to know what the old CPU actually was, unless it relates =
to adapting a new one. I just need to know the Vcc supply voltage and curr=
ent compliance and any special considerations other than that.
d apparently uses a Conexant RC224ATL modem/fax chip inside, but for now I =
don't plan on using it much. I may, later on, want to use it in conjunctio=
n with PCI modem boards I still own for PC desktop computers. But not for =
now. I may instead set up a USB based custom adapter that attaches to the =
printer port for PC communications. Assuming there is enough information a=
vailable at this point to do much, at all. If not, I've got enough work ah=
ead that it will have to wait for Christmas time.
nterested in just adapting this for dialup access to existing services, usi=
ng the existing software on the unit. That is of no interest, at all. I'l=
l do the O/S and application software for it.
st up on this? Or has very little really been worked out for these, as yet=
?
lities and hopeful that there may be others who can help me skip over some =
difficulties and who may also be interested in results I gather over time. =
If it's all dead now, that's fine. I'll just take my time and see where i=
t takes me.
Hi Jon,
Great to see n=
ew blood on this project.
Replacing a 100 LQFP processor is not for the fa=
int of heart.
Unless you are going to build a 100 LQFP adaptor, this will b=
e very difficult.
good luck,
many will be watching.
don
From: Neil Morrison <neilsmorr@...>
Oct 4, 2009
The general view is that it is much easier and rewarding to flash it
into w=
hat you want. That's certainly how I feel - it could replace the
Radio Shac=
k Model 100 computer.
Neil
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM, jondkirwan <j=
onk@...> wrote:
s when they were $9/each, a while back (three years or more?) Sitting on a =
shelf, so far. I'm interested in using the LCD display, keyboard, power sys=
tem (battery or wall wart) and case, of course, as part of a new homebrew d=
evice that will use a new CPU (desolder the old one, replace it.)
From: Jon Kirwan <jonk@...>
Oct 4, 2009
On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:36:29 -0000, CJ wrote:
ups.com, "jondkirwan" <jonk@...> wrote:
tation 120's when they were $9/each,
)
ago now. Wow, time flies, huh? :-)
Yeah. I had picked up two on the of=
f-chance that I might someday want
to modify them for some other use. In n=
o way, at the time, did I want
them for what they were designed for. What =
appealed to me about them
was the case, battery section, keyboard, display,=
and D25 connector in
the back. It's all there, convenient. Also, I might=
have considered
scavaging the power supply circuits. Mainly, I knew up fr=
ont I wanted
to replace the CPU with something having a fair bit of flash a=
nd some
ram, yet capable of very low power operation (tens of microamps for=
average duty.)
=
the 120, but I'm not sure yet.)
been updated
nal 120 was in a purple case, and has LCD
new 120" is in a dark
Looks like you =
got my two nailed. Thanks for the clue.
re accurate information on
signal
les/part files/RSDRD_3SI176_0A.txt
Yes, I hit on that one a few hours ago.=
It wasn't clear whether it
applied in my case.
a space in "part files", in case
ste it back together.)
current
s far as I remember, it is 5 volt. I dunno about current,
ss. :-)
I'd guess low, too.
ATL modem/fax chip
Yes, it's 2400 limited. S=
o the earlier ones used the trellis style
modems. Nice. I designed a 2400=
bps, years (nah, decades) ago. Never
tried my hand at the fancy trellis st=
uff, though.
een worked out, as far as documenting
he "new development"
Nothing =
new happening?
I'd like to get complete specs on the various peripheral co=
mponents
that exist surrounding the micro. I'd like to get the datasheet o=
n
the micro, itself, so that I can see what internal peripheral support
it =
has and how it is attached to the rest. I'd like to get the
protocols used=
for the LCD (does it have it's own controllers? if so,
which? if not, wh=
at are the details for the LCD in terms of timing
diagrams and the like?) =
Etc.
Here's what I want eventually to do. I've two things in mind (one is=
a BASIC interpreter and using the printer port for an I/O bus for
extender=
boards.) Both depend on getting a decent, modern development
setup for it=
, though. So for now, the main thing is to design a
daughter board to repl=
ace the existing cpu. Or else get some
convincing evidence that I should j=
ust keep it there.
It might be smarter for me to first use SDCC with the e=
xisting system
until I gain enough experience with it. But right now, I'm =
not sure
how to proceed there. I gather already that the CPU core is Z80-l=
ike,
but that doesn't tell me a great deal by itself. (I used to do a lot
=
of 8080 and 8085 programming before the Z80 even existed and got my
hands o=
n Z80 assembly work with the TRS-80, memory serving.) I have
SDCC loaded, =
already, and integrated into the SiLabs IDE for
compilation, right now. I =
can use it with a DOS box, though. Anyway,
how does compiled output (hex f=
iles, perhaps?) get burned into the
system? Is there a mechanism that's be=
en worked out and works well?
What hardware tools are involved in that? Et=
c.
If I do this way first, it will allow me a 'slow ramp' into
understandi=
ng the hardware details more intimately, before deciding if
I should jump o=
ff the cliff and place another CPU in there. An
extremely low power one wo=
uld be the MSP430 (has extremely good start
up from sleep times) or some of=
the newer PICs or even the SiLab parts
(one I'm using now is about the onl=
y thing going for a decent 1MHz
16-bit SAR ADC no matter what family you wa=
nt to talk about.) Atmel
has some interesting parts, as well. And there a=
re many, many ARM
choices -- though most suck a little too much power for m=
y taste. I
like things under 2mA on the CPU when it is running full out an=
d under
10uA with a decent timer or two plus brown-out and a comparator
run=
ning. So that drops ARMs out, mostly. But I love the parts
because of the=
great compiler support from gcc.
Anyway, I started to read today. I supp=
ose I can slog through on my
own, if you assure me a lot is out there to re=
ad. But if you can
point me faster, I'd sure appreciate that a lot. The f=
aster I figure
out the barriers, the faster I can get going.
Also, do you =
know where one can pick up more of these new 120's? Or
new 150's? Cheap! =
I picked up two at $5 and I just found another I
can get at the same price=
, still in the box. But if I do this, I
might want to make 100 or so. (Sc=
hool stuff, teaching tool of sorts.)
Since I'd give them away, they need to=
be cheap. If you know of any
nice stockpile of them that hasn't been grou=
nd into powder already and
where the owner might consider getting at least =
'something' rather
than having to pay for garbage disposal to get back the =
shelf space,
I'd like to know about it.
Thanks for the quick response!
Jo=
n
t, and try to post, 'coz
Now I
From: Jon Kirwan <jonk@...>
Oct 4, 2009
On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:16:55 -0000, you wrote:
w blood on this project.
aint of heart.
100 pins isn't that scary. It would be the spacing that mi=
ght bother
me more. If it were a BGA, that would be a problem, and I'd
def=
initely have to hire it out. But it's not.
100 pins, eh?
going to build a 100 LQFP adaptor, this will be very difficult.
I was thi=
nking about having a small board built for the purpose that
would align wit=
h the existing footprint.
Of course, I'm also interested in just learning =
the board peripherals,
first. It's probably smarter to start there. May t=
urn out that I'm
fine with that, alone.
Thanks,
Jon
From: Jon Kirwan <jonk@...>
Oct 4, 2009
On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 10:15:03 -0700, Neil wrote:
t is much easier and rewarding to flash it
ainly how I feel - it could replace the
T=
hat sounds like a sane approach. As I earlier wrote, "It might be
smarter =
for me to first use SDCC with the existing system until I gain
enough exper=
ience with it." So I guess that's your advice, too.
Thanks. And thanks, =
all.
Jon
P.S. Still looking for responses on some of the other questions =
I
asked.
From: "cyranojones_lalp" <cyranojones_lalp@...>
Oct 5, 2009
like you got my two nailed. Thanks for the clue.
Which are they?
p://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/mailstation/files/part%20files/RSDRD_3SI176=
_0A.txt
er it
Yes.
Someone was wo=
rking on getting CP/M going, but as you noted,
there has been no traffic on=
list in last year.
And it's been over a year since I did anything on this=
project.
I was working up a c header to use the mailstation rom
functions=
that I had figured out (and I figured out
quite a bit, if I do say so myse=
lf!) :-)
It's in file section, under "Mailstation Toolkit".
I have some=
stuff I didn't upload, in particular a
perl script I was working on, to c=
onvert resource strings
& graphics into format that works with the mailsta=
tion
lib functions. You just link the resource data with
your c code, usi=
ng sdcc.
And I was working on a makefile to compile mailstation
apps with=
sdcc.
nents
I am pretty sure that everything known about the hardware is
i=
n the file area, in particular the "part files" folder.
Also, there is a l=
ist of known models in the group's database
section, where some of the dif=
ferences are documented.
There are manufacturer datasheets for representat=
ive codeflash,
dataflash, and ram chips, and a few on some of the modems.
T=
here are notes on the cpu, lcd, and keyboard, where we never
found actual =
datasheets. AFAICT, they are good enough, and
not having actual datasheets=
is not holding anything back.
I suppose the main thing lacking is data on=
the blue LCD.
The mailstation models are all quite similar (except 350). =
The differences I can think of off hand are:
Various manufacturers of me=
mory chips.
Ergonomic models have a slightly different keyboard matrix.
1=
20 & 150 both were made with two kinds of LCD.
Caller ID chip only in whit=
e/cream colored units.
Various modem chips (diff speeds)
250 has cordless=
phone chipset.
Probably at least 20 different firmware versions.
The sim=
ilarities (except 350, and diff noted above):
One Megabyte codeflash.
512=
KByte dataflash.
128 KByte ram.
All have same cpu (z80 inst set).
Port =
& Memory Maps are all the same.
320 x 128 monochrome LCD (but 2 diff types=
exist).
Parallel port.
I'm just going from memory, and it has been a few=
years.
Perhaps I remember it wrong in some cases???
eventually to do. I've two things in mind (one is
nd using the printer port for an I/O bus for
nd on getting a decent, modern development
now, the main thing is to design a
cpu. Or else get some
ere.
My feeling is that it would be quite hard to replace the cpu,
and if =
you did, you would have a powerful cpu with a tiny monochrome
LCD (not even=
grayscale). Perhaps you could program the ms as a
terminal for more powe=
rful processor? Bear in mind what you
can buy a netbook, or used notebook =
for.
By the way, the cpu is 128 pins, and small enough to hide under a dim=
e.
I can't think of an easy (and good, and cheap) way to connect a
sub-boa=
rd. But you could put new cpu inside case, and still connect
it as a term=
inal (fewer wires).
e existing system
I'm not sure
s Z80-like,
do a lot
my
=
n, right now. I can use it with a DOS box, though. Anyway,
piled output (hex files, perhaps?) get burned into the
a mechanism that's been worked out and works well?
e involved in that? Etc.
The most recent method I used involved poking a =
few bytes into
dataflash with ms built-in hex-editor, and loading a larger
=
block of code into the ms splash-screen file with "mailbug", a
debugger for=
ms that I wrote (in file section). The code entered
via hex-editor is in =
location ms uses for "loadable apps", and
when you run that short "app", it=
jumps to the larger block in the
splash-screen area of the dataflash.
I'=
m a little fuzzy on exactly the steps, but I used the code in
splash-screen=
to load another app into the app area of the
dataflash. This one shows up=
with an icon in the ms menu,
and it interfaces with mailbug to load other =
apps.
Since it is in dataflash, it is persistent (I didn't
have to go thru =
this whole procedure every time I loaded
a new program.)
So, then I could=
click on this "bootloader" icon in ms menu,
and then load hex files over a=
laplink cable, using
mailbug on the PC end.
I didn't write a bootloader t=
o load directly to dataflash.
I was loading apps into ms ram with mailbug, =
executing them,
then a small piece of code included in app copied the app =
from ram to another empty app slot in dataflash. Whew!
But it worked!!!=
:-)
Oh yeah, I executed at a special entrypoint to run the
"install" co=
de, which would call ms firmware to copy the
ram image to the dataflash. A=
fter it had been copied
to dataflash, when running the loaded app from the=
ms menu,
app would start from the normal entrypoint (iow, the first byte)=
.
Earlier methods involved overwriting the codeflash with
similar bootload=
er, but that killed the ms for normal
operation as a mailstation.
The proc=
ess is documented somewhere in file section, or
possibly in a message post =
(almost 2 yrs ago, aprrox).
I'll see if I can find it, if I ever finish rea=
ding/responding
to this message. ;-)
One thing on my todo list (that I di=
d not do yet) was to make
a simpler command-line loader that could run from=
the
makefile, when you did "make program", so I could compile
and load fro=
m ide, without needing separate mailbug prog.
When I was working under win=
dows, I used the winavr IDE.
Lately I am using Ubuntu, where at first I use=
d
"gedit" as IDE, but recently I found "geany" which I
really like. It i=
s somewhat similar to winavr's
"programmers notepad", in that it is based =
on same
editor engine. But it seems like a more polished
program, with m=
ore features (better find command,
for one).
it will allow me a 'slow ramp' into
re intimately, before deciding if
nother CPU in there. An
extremely good start
ven the SiLab parts
a decent 1MHz
.) Atmel
ARM
=
=
. So that drops ARMs out, mostly. But I love the parts
reat compiler support from gcc.
Perhaps the reason the ARM sucks up more p=
ower running full speed
is because full speed on ARM is a lot faster than t=
he others???
I don't know much about MSP430 other than it is a popular cho=
ice.
I like AVRs, mostly because I am comfortable with avr-gcc.
I have an i=
tch to learn more about ARM, but so far have not
used any of them. PICs ar=
e popular, but I can't figure out
just why. I have been avoiding PICs, and=
intend to continue
avoiding.
e I can slog through on my
ad. But if you can
faster I figure
Gosh, I c=
an't assure you there's "a lot". My feeling is there is
a lot of crud to w=
ade through! And by "crud", I mean a lot of
yammering about using the mai=
lstation for email. ;^)
If you notice any outright spam still there, jot =
down the msg#.
The file sections I mentioned probably have higher signal-=
to-noise
ratio than most of the message archive.
There probably is some co=
de in the message archive that is not
in the files, but whether it is impor=
tant, I dunno.
I don't think fyberoptic put his stuff in yahoo group files=
, so
you might look for his url. Or google [fyberoptic mailstation].
His s=
tuff was oriented towards running code from ram, more like a
desktop comput=
er (and without ms code), while my stuff was aimed
at running from flash, =
like an embedded-system (and running
under mailstations "OS").
you know where one can pick up more of these new 120's? Or
Cheap! I picked up two at $5 and I just found another I
ame price, still in the box.
That's the best deal I've heard of. They a=
re on ebay regularly, but
usually at least $10 with shipping. I imagine yo=
u could get several
per week for under $20. But not for $5, and not 100 at=
a time.
uff, teaching tool of sorts.)
heap. If you know of any
into powder already and
something' rather
shelf space,
I have a closet full, but I am =
not looking to dump them. My
girlfriend likes to tease me about them... H=
ey!!! You're not
really her playing a joke, are you??? :-)
he quick response!
No problem.
I set the group to "new users moderated" s=
everal months ago,
and you are the first (besides a couple spammers) to pos=
t
under that setting. I thought it was supposed to automatically
turn mode=
ration off when first post was approved, but for
some reason your messages =
this morning (uh, yesterday morn now)
still went into mod folder. I'll see=
if I can change it
manually if any more go there.
CJ
From: Neil Morrison <neilsmorr@...>
Oct 5, 2009
From my point of view, two things would be ideal:
1) Some sort of set up where an email could be sent to the MS which
would 'unlock' any model from EarthLink and let you use any dial up
ISP.
2) A hardware system which would let you flash the ROM to add or alter
functionality and make any model much more useful.
My concern now, having been through this before, is that EarthLink
will junk all of the documentation etc for these and it will be lost
forever. They still do support these but for how much longer?
(URL)
Neil
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 6:26 AM, cyranojones_lalp
From: Jon Kirwan <jonk@...>
Oct 5, 2009
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:02:08 -0700, you wrote:
things would be ideal:
nt to the MS which
any dial up
That already exists for my model, the 'new' 120. I use=
d some
instructions I found and they worked perfectly on my unit. (Well, t=
o
be honest, I dropped my dial-up service back in 2005 and don't now
have a=
site where I can test it, but all the fields are available for
editing on =
my unit right now. So it does appear I can set things up.)
I had to follow=
some 'wierd' instructions that forced me to flip out
my batteries at an ex=
act moment, but it worked great to reset the
device and get it into a total=
ly new boot mode.
to add or alter
Yes. =
That's something I would expect as a first step. I take it,
that hasn't be=
en done, yet.
rthLink
st
/kb.earthlink.net/case.asp?article=3D10041
I'm not much interested in usin=
g these with Earthlink or any other
dial-up service. Too much pain/cost th=
ere. Dialup is likely to go
away, completely, anyway. It costs a lot to m=
aintain the phone banks,
modems, etc., and people are moving towards cell p=
hones as their
primary phone service, as well. How many more years it will=
last, I
don't know. But there is a lot of financial pressure, I bet, to d=
ump
it entirely.
I would like to support a USB connection to the computer =
for file
exchange (make it appear like a FAT-file memory stick to the PC.) =
And
set up a bootstrap that would allow me to specify boot parameters for
=
loading specific files from the flash file system on startup.
Something aki=
n to the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT of DOS days, I
suppose. That would be=
convenient enough that anyone could use it.
The other option, as you menti=
on, is hardware for flashing directly.
Start there, work towards the USB so=
lution, I suppose.
So nothing much has been done along these lines, I gath=
er.
Jon
From: "Donald H" <donhamilton2002@...>
Oct 5, 2009
Hi Jon,
The Mail Station is just a toy that has been fun, but now is obs=
oleted by 32 bit Wireless devices.
The amount of work is not really a prob=
lem.
Its the amount of return.
I have looked at replacing the main board =
with something else.
I measured out the main board in one of my wrecked ma=
chines to use the LCD, keyboard and power supply connections.
I figured it=
would cost about $200-400 just to get something running.
For less than $1=
00 I got a ZipIt wireless device.
That killed the Mail Station for me.
http=
://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/zipitwireless/
So, I am sorry if I spoiled =
your fun.
don
From: Jon Kirwan <jonk@...>
Oct 5, 2009
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:29:04 -0000, you wrote:
done along these lines, I gather.
n is just a toy that has been fun, but now is obsoleted by 32 bit Wireless =
devices.
f return.
LCD, keyboard and power supply connections.
t $200-400 just to get something running.
It wireless device.
ps.yahoo.com/group/zipitwireless/
=
Actually, that's a great reference and not a problem, at all. I'm
=
glad you mentioned it.
I still would like to play around with the 120 some=
more (and I will,
I think, if I can get sufficiently educated to do someth=
ing sensible
with it.)
Thanks,
Jon
From: Jon Kirwan <jonk@...>
Oct 5, 2009
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:29:04 -0000, you wrote:
I got a ZipIt wireless device.
p>
Oh, my. A full-sized keyboard is pretty much a requirement in my
case.=
Are these as tiny as they look?? And they seem to use backlit
color scre=
ens, nowadays. Power consumption is probably off the charts
for me. Inter=
esting, though.
Jon
From: "Neil Morrison" <neilsmorr@...>
Oct 6, 2009
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on.
Neil
From: Donald H
Hi Jon,
The Mail Station is just a t=
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amount of work is not really a problem.
Its the amount of return.
I have=
looked at replacing the main board with something else.
I measured out th=
e main board in one of my wrecked machines to use the LCD, keyboard and pow=
er supply connections.
I figured it would cost about $200-400 just to get =
something running.
For less than $100 I got a ZipIt wireless device.
That =
killed the Mail Station for me.
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So, I am sorry if I spoiled your fun.
don
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From: "Donald H" <donhamilton2002@...>
Oct 7, 2009
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cific? With a pocket full of AA cells you're good to go with a modified Mai=
lstation.
You are correct, I wanted a email machine.
You need a novel kee=
per.
don