I have an Idea! (Jan 16, 2006)

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  1. From: Gary Clouse Jan 23, 2006
  2. From: "Neil Morrison" Jan 23, 2006
  3. From: "Cyrano Jones" Jan 30, 2006
  4. From: Gary Clouse Jan 30, 2006
  5. From: "Cyrano Jones" Jan 31, 2006
  6. From: Gary Clouse Feb 2, 2006
  7. From: Sean Walton Feb 3, 2006
  8. From: "konablend" Feb 14, 2006
  9. From: "Cyrano Jones" Feb 15, 2006


Subject: I have an Idea!

From: "konablend" <konablend@...>

Jan 16, 2006

I'm sure I'm not the first. I have a DET1 Blah blah blah...2.54Y
Firmware.=
Let me get to the point. I can get into the edit mode of
the hex viewer=
. As I understand it, what i'm looking at is all user
mem and not ROM. B=
ut the ROM is flashable. And there are
instructions already in place to d=
o it. And you can enter your own
apps by hand in hex and run them in the =
yahoo! feature or wherever.
All I want to do in turn XTND off or at least=
change the strings to
something else the POP3 server wont puke on (-ERR).=
0C1D30 in the rom
is what I'm looking to change. 0C1C70, AND 0C1DB0 as w=
ell. 06bab0 has
a couple of strings but thats all they are for what I kno=
w. So
basically what I want to do is change XTND to something that wont
=
return -ERR on most POP3 servers, and I want to do it without flashing
the=
ROM externally. I am more than willing to enter hex for a few
hours to m=
ake it work. Maybe someone will write an editor for the rom
someday. Any=
idea's anyone?



1: Subject: Re: [mailstation] I have an Idea!

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From: Gary Clouse <niklaus37217@...>

Jan 23, 2006

The Rabbit cpu used in the mailstations have a
hardware flashmemory function that works through the
parallel port. I don't know how to access it through
the printer port, but someone on the list probably
does.



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2: Subject: Re: [mailstation] I have an Idea!

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From: "Neil Morrison" <neilsmorr@...>

Jan 23, 2006

Did you look at old messages, or the files section?

Neil

From: "Gary Clouse" <niklaus37217@...>



3: Subject: Re: I have an Idea!

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From: "Cyrano Jones" <cyranojones_lalp@...>

Jan 30, 2006

wrote:=

function that works through the
it through

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Why do you think it is a Rabbit cpu??? It does not even
come close to mat=
ching the pinouts of the standard
Rabbit chips that I am aware of. As far=
as I know,
it is not a Rabbit part.

In my personal opinion, it is a cu=
stom ASIC.

But there is a built-in reflash function, in *software*.
One =
of the things that my "mailbug" debugger does is
interface with this nativ=
e reflash capability
(via parallel port & laplink cable), allowing you to =

re-program the mailstations codeflash.

So far, the only thing *I* have fl=
ashed in any of my
mailstations is code that lets me boot up the remote
d=
ebugger. But it can be used to flash whatever you want.
Ferinstince, if so=
meone was inclined to write completely
new firmware, mailbug can flash it =
into a stock mailstation.
Or, if you just want to make some changes to ex=
isting
mailstation firmware, it can reflash with your modified
firmware.
=

I have been working (Ha!) on a new version of the boot code
(code that boo=
ts up the remote debug functions of mailbug)
that can be used without erasi=
ng the existing mailstation
code. (The native reflash erases most of the =
codeflash
*before* you get a chance to "back it up".)

This new version wi=
ll (when I get it working) let you load
and execute your own code over the =
laplink, without killing
the existing mailstation code. It also will let =
you save
to disk an intact image of your particular firmware version.

Afte=
r saving your firmware to a file on PC, you can edit it
with whatever tools=
you like, and then flash your new
version back to your mailstation.

If y=
ou are working with mailstation firmware 2.53yr or 2.54,
you can do this n=
ow, with the currently posted mailbug 0.0.3.
There are images of those tw=
o firmware versions in the group
download area. So, for those two, you do=
n't really need to
save your own images.

One catch, mailbug 0.0.3 will no=
t let you change the first
four pages of codeflash with the native reflash.=
If you
load the remote debug boot code, then you can flash anything
anyw=
here. Mailbug 0.0.4 will flash the whole codeflash
without needing to load=
the remote debugger.



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f
user

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s to
n the rom
l. 06bab0 has
I know. So
ng that wont
without flashing


oping this will get read, ERIC
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4: Subject: Re: [mailstation] Re: I have an Idea!

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From: Gary Clouse <niklaus37217@...>

Jan 30, 2006



Of the 2 that I have ( 1 120 and a 150 ) the 120 has a
rabbit chip in it. It is apparently a discontinued
part that was replaced by the 2000. The Rabbit 2000 is
functionally similar. both are based on a Z180
compatible core. I'll have to take a peek at theh
150's innards and see what it has.

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5: Subject: Re: I have an Idea!

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From: "Cyrano Jones" <cyranojones_lalp@...>

Jan 31, 2006


nes_lalp@y... wrote:
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it chips that I am aware of. As far as I know,

n it. It is apparently a discontinued
The Rabbit 2000 is
atible core. I'll have to take a peek at theh
it has.

Are you saying that you have something other than
the 3SI176 chip,=
or that the 3SI176 is a Rabbit part?

I have opened up a lot of different =
models, and found
the same chip in all (3SI176), except for the 350, which
=
had a Toshiba TMP91C820AF.

These are the models I know of:
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ahoo.com/group/mailstation/database?method=3DreportRows=3D1


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abbit part. <br>> <br>> Of the 2 that I have ( 1 120 and a 150 ) the=
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t; part that was replaced by the 2000. The Rabbit 2000 is<br>> functiona=
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take a peek at theh<br>> 150's innards and see what it has.<br> <br>Are=
you saying that you have something other than <br>the 3SI176 chip, or that=
the 3SI176 is a Rabbit part?<br><br>I have opened up a lot of different mo=
dels, and found <br>the same chip in all (3SI176), except for the 350, whic=
h<br> had a Toshiba TMP91C820AF.<br><br>These are the models I know of:<br>=
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6: Subject: Re: [mailstation] Re: I have an Idea!

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From: Gary Clouse <niklaus37217@...>

Feb 2, 2006

I opened up my other one and it has the
same chip set. Several months ago I did find the
part number on a chip directory, which listed it
a rabbit semiconductor CPU as compatible. I think
the 3si176 is a chinese clone.


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7: Subject: Re: [mailstation] Re: I have an Idea!

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From: Sean Walton <ab8kf@...>

Feb 3, 2006

Can you get the details on both chips (and any
differences)? I have tried many times to get hardware
and programming specs from various mfr's, but they are
only willing to selling the chips.
-Sean Walton



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8: Subject: Re: I have an Idea!

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From: "konablend" <konablend@...>

Feb 14, 2006

I should have mentioned that I dont have a laplink cable nor do I
desire t=
o find one unless I really have to. I had already thought
about the metho=
d you present here and was pretty sure it ould work
but I really want to t=
ry to do it without hooking my PC up to it.
More fun/torture that way. B=
esides, I have been trying to learn
z80/81 assembler for some weird reason=
.

.> wrote:
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don't know how to access it through
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mages.
ur pages of codeflash with the native reflash. If you
ebug boot code, then you can flash anything
flash the whole codeflash

sure I'm not the first. I have a DET1 Blah blah
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user
re
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P3 servers, and I want to do
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make it work. Maybe someone will write an
someday. Any idea's anyone?
ad, ERIC
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9: Subject: Re: I have an Idea!

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From: "Cyrano Jones" <cyranojones_lalp@...>

Feb 15, 2006

nk cable nor do I
eady thought
ld work
.
80/81 assembler for some weird reason.

z81???