From: "Walt" <wand@...>
Jul 18, 2006
1)
My wife just picked up a DET1 v2.55Y at a garage sale this weekend
for =
$2 and I've been trying to get it to work. I was able to reset
it and ent=
er new info, but could only create one user account. Is
there a way to cr=
eate additional users without calling EarthLink?
2)
I found a dialup ISP, =
www.bamnet.com, that has local dialup service
in the small town where an e=
lderly aunt lives in Upper Michigan.
They charge only one cent per minute=
with a prepaid account. With
thousands of dial up numbers around the cou=
ntry, this looks like a
great option. I cannot get my email from my ISP o=
nce I am logged
into the internet, but I can use my company's email server=
to
receive messages, but not to send. I am currently setting up a test
=
Windows 2003 server for pop3 and smtp access and will experiment
with that=
here shortly.
3)
With great dialup access to the internet, wouldn't it be=
feasible
for someone to host a simple pop3/smtp server for use for
MailS=
tation type of appliances? I realize protections are needed to
keep the s=
pammers off, but that should be easy by limiting these
accounts to minimal=
settings needed for dialup and only a few
messages at a time, I would thi=
nk. Does this sound reasonable to
you? If so, then why hasn't somebody d=
one it?
4)
Are there any more of the free dialup ISPs left, or dialup emai=
l
providers? All of the big providers are having to lock down their
syst=
ems, charge for services, and create roadblocks that these
simple little m=
ail terminals can't seem to handle without a major
effort to rewrite code =
and rewrite the PROMs.
5)
Do you think providing this type of service, par=
ticularly for the
elderly and perhaps specialty markets like RVers would b=
e feasible?
Thanks,
PS If I can get everything to work I will be happy t=
o publish all
the info I find, and about Bamnet, if you think it would be =
useful
to anybody on this group.
From: "Neil Morrison" <neilsmorr@...>
Jul 18, 2006
charset="iso-8859-1"
Some cities have free community email - see (URL)
vice as an example. IME the Mailstations with the 'Yahoo' feature are easie=
st to switch over.
Neil
From: Walt
=
1)
My wife just picked up a DET1 v2.55Y at a garage sale this weekend
=
for $2 and I've been trying to get it to work. I was able to reset
it a=
nd enter new info, but could only create one user account. Is
there a wa=
y to create additional users without calling EarthLink?
2)
I found a d=
ialup ISP, www.bamnet.com, that has local dialup service
in the small to=
wn where an elderly aunt lives in Upper Michigan.
They charge only one c=
ent per minute with a prepaid account. With
thousands of dial up numbers=
around the country, this looks like a
great option. I cannot get my ema=
il from my ISP once I am logged
into the internet, but I can use my comp=
any's email server to
receive messages, but not to send. I am currently =
setting up a test
Windows 2003 server for pop3 and smtp access and will =
experiment
with that here shortly.
3)
With great dialup access to t=
he internet, wouldn't it be feasible
for someone to host a simple pop3/s=
mtp server for use for
MailStation type of appliances? I realize protect=
ions are needed to
keep the spammers off, but that should be easy by lim=
iting these
accounts to minimal settings needed for dialup and only a fe=
w
messages at a time, I would think. Does this sound reasonable to
yo=
u? If so, then why hasn't somebody done it?
4)
Are there any more of t=
he free dialup ISPs left, or dialup email
providers? All of the big prov=
iders are having to lock down their
systems, charge for services, and cr=
eate roadblocks that these
simple little mail terminals can't seem to ha=
ndle without a major
effort to rewrite code and rewrite the PROMs.
5)=
Do you think providing this type of service, particularly for the
eld=
erly and perhaps specialty markets like RVers would be feasible?
Thanks,=
PS If I can get everything to work I will be happy to publish all
th=
e info I find, and about Bamnet, if you think it would be useful
to anyb=
ody on this group.
charset="iso-8859-1"
w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
content -->
LE></STYLE>
ffff>
es have free community email - see </FONT><FONT
size=3D2><A
href=3D"http:=
//www2.vcn.bc.ca/emailService">(URL)
as
an example. IME the Mailstations with the 'Yahoo' feature are easiest t=
o switch
over.</FONT></DIV>
FONT size=3D2>Neil</FONT></DIV>
OCKQUOTE
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;=
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
style=3D"BACKGROU=
ND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
=3Dwand@... href=3D"mailto:wand@...">Walt</A> </DIV>
=
DET1 v2.55Y at a garage sale this weekend
g to get it to work. I was able to reset <BR>it
and enter new info, but =
could only create one user account. Is <BR>there a way
to create additio=
nal users without calling EarthLink?<BR><BR>2)<BR>I found a
dialup ISP, =
dia=
lup service <BR>in the small town where an elderly aunt lives in Upper
M=
ichigan. <BR>They charge only one cent per minute with a prepaid account.
=
With <BR>thousands of dial up numbers around the country, this looks like=
a
the internet, but I can use my company's email server to <BR>re=
ceive messages,
but not to send. I am currently setting up a test <BR>Wi=
ndows 2003 server for
pop3 and smtp access and will experiment <BR>with =
that here
shortly.<BR><BR>3)<BR>With great dialup access to the internet=
, wouldn't it be
feasible <BR>for someone to host a simple pop3/smtp ser=
ver for use for
s are needed to
miting these
a few <BR>messages
at a time, I would think. Does this sound reasonable=
to <BR>you? If so, then
why hasn't somebody done it?<BR><BR>4)<BR>Are t=
here any more of the free
dialup ISPs left, or dialup email <BR>provider=
s? All of the big providers are
having to lock down their <BR>systems, c=
harge for services, and create
roadblocks that these <BR>simple little m=
ail terminals can't seem to handle
without a major <BR>effort to rewrite=
code and rewrite the
PROMs.<BR><BR>5)<BR>Do you think providing this ty=
pe of service, particularly
for the <BR>elderly and perhaps specialty ma=
rkets like RVers would be
feasible?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>PS If I can ge=
t everything to work I will be
happy to publish all <BR>the info I find,=
and about Bamnet, if you think it
would be useful <BR>to anybody on thi=
s
group.<BR><BR></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
From: "wayne" <waynem@...>
Jul 19, 2006
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Part of the problem is the mailstation uses the "Control X" (Xtnd) character
in it's
email sequences. Most email services will not except that as part of the
login,
and handshakes for email delivery.
Somebody probably could setup an email server that would work with this, but
they would have to overcome 2 questions ??
1. Would using this particular email protocol be infringing on Earthlink's
patent?
And would they then get into a lawsuit from Earthlink over using it ?
2. How would they pay for the 800 number dial-up telephone lines to access
the system ???
You want the service for "FREE", but somebody has to pay for the facilities
somehow ???
Would you except SPAM delivered to you, with the money paid for that
advertising to pay
for the facilities ??? Or would you be willing to pay a monthly fee for the
email service ??
An 800 number would run about 5 cents per minute, with 2 calls per day from
the Mailstation,
about 2 minutes each, that is about $ 3.00 per month, plus the cost of
running the server unit,
the electric, and providing any accounting staff to handle your payments. I
would say that
you would need about $ 5.00 per month to break even.
Wayne
From: mailstation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Walt
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:10 PM
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mailstation] Dialup Access
1)
My wife just picked up a DET1 v2.55Y at a garage sale this weekend
for $2 and I've been trying to get it to work. I was able to reset
it and enter new info, but could only create one user account. Is
there a way to create additional users without calling EarthLink?
2)
I found a dialup ISP, www.bamnet.com, that has local dialup service
in the small town where an elderly aunt lives in Upper Michigan.
They charge only one cent per minute with a prepaid account. With
thousands of dial up numbers around the country, this looks like a
great option. I cannot get my email from my ISP once I am logged
into the internet, but I can use my company's email server to
receive messages, but not to send. I am currently setting up a test
Windows 2003 server for pop3 and smtp access and will experiment
with that here shortly.
3)
With great dialup access to the internet, wouldn't it be feasible
for someone to host a simple pop3/smtp server for use for
MailStation type of appliances? I realize protections are needed to
keep the spammers off, but that should be easy by limiting these
accounts to minimal settings needed for dialup and only a few
messages at a time, I would think. Does this sound reasonable to
you? If so, then why hasn't somebody done it?
4)
Are there any more of the free dialup ISPs left, or dialup email
providers? All of the big providers are having to lock down their
systems, charge for services, and create roadblocks that these
simple little mail terminals can't seem to handle without a major
effort to rewrite code and rewrite the PROMs.
5)
Do you think providing this type of service, particularly for the
elderly and perhaps specialty markets like RVers would be feasible?
Thanks,
PS If I can get everything to work I will be happy to publish all
the info I find, and about Bamnet, if you think it would be useful
to anybody on this group.
charset="iso-8859-1"
w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
work content -->
/HEAD>
915-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Part
of the probl=
em is the mailstation uses the "Control X" (Xtnd) character in
it's</FONT>=
r=3D#0000ff size=3D2>email
sequences. Most email services will not e=
xcept that as part of the
login,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
5410915-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>and
handshake=
s for email delivery.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
2006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
size=3D2>Somebody probably could setup an email server that would work wit=
h this,
but</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
T face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>they
would have to overcome 2 ques=
tions ??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
ce=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
class=3D245410915-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>1.
=
Would using this particular email protocol be infringing on Earthlink's
pa=
tent?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And
would they then get into a lawsuit f=
rom Earthlink over using it
?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
0915-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&n=
bsp;</DIV>
=3D#0000ff size=3D2>2. How
would they pay for the 800 number dial-up telep=
hone lines to access the system
???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
=3D245410915-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>You
want=
the service for "FREE", but somebody has to pay for the facilities somehow=
???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Would
you except SPAM delivered to you, =
with the money paid for that advertising to
pay</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
SPAN class=3D245410915-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=
the facilities ??? Or would you be willing to pay a monthly fee=
for the
email service ??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> =
00ff size=3D2>An 800
number would run about 5 cents per minute, with 2 cal=
ls per day from the
Mailstation,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
5410915-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>about
2 minut=
es each, that is about $ 3.00 per month, plus the cost of running the
serv=
er unit,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
ce=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>the
electric, and providing any accoun=
ting staff to handle your payments. I
would say that</FONT></SPAN></=
DIV>
ff size=3D2>you
would need about $ 5.00 per month to break even.</FONT></S=
PAN></DIV>
=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
5-19072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2>Wayne</FONT></SPAN>=
00ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
2006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
FONT face=3DTahoma
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> m=
ailstation@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com]<B>On Beh=
alf Of </B>Walt<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:10 PM<BR><B>To:=
mailstation@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [mailstation] Dialup=
Access<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
ust picked up a DET1 v2.55Y at a garage sale this weekend
I've been trying to get it to work. I was able to reset <BR>it
and ente=
r new info, but could only create one user account. Is <BR>there a way
t=
o create additional users without calling EarthLink?<BR><BR>2)<BR>I found a=
dialup ISP, www.bamnet.com, that has local dialup service <BR>in the sm=
all
town where an elderly aunt lives in Upper Michigan. <BR>They charge =
only one
cent per minute with a prepaid account. With <BR>thousands of d=
ial up numbers
around the country, this looks like a <BR>great option. I=
cannot get my email
from my ISP once I am logged <BR>into the internet,=
but I can use my company's
email server to <BR>receive messages, but no=
t to send. I am currently setting
up a test <BR>Windows 2003 server for =
pop3 and smtp access and will experiment
internet, wouldn't it be feasi=
ble <BR>for someone to host a simple pop3/smtp
server for use for <BR>Ma=
ilStation type of appliances? I realize protections
are needed to <BR>ke=
ep the spammers off, but that should be easy by limiting
these <BR>accou=
nts to minimal settings needed for dialup and only a few
a time, I would think. Does this sound reasonable to <BR>you?
If so, th=
en why hasn't somebody done it?<BR><BR>4)<BR>Are there any more of
the f=
ree dialup ISPs left, or dialup email <BR>providers? All of the big
prov=
iders are having to lock down their <BR>systems, charge for services, and
=
create roadblocks that these <BR>simple little mail terminals can't seem =
to
handle without a major <BR>effort to rewrite code and rewrite the
=
PROMs.<BR><BR>5)<BR>Do you think providing this type of service, particular=
ly
for the <BR>elderly and perhaps specialty markets like RVers would be=
feasible?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>PS If I can get everything to work I wi=
ll be
happy to publish all <BR>the info I find, and about Bamnet, if you=
think it
would be useful <BR>to anybody on this group.<BR><BR></P></DIV=
From: "Govind C" <govindc@...>
Jul 19, 2006
Content-Disposition: inline
[ Attachment content not displayed ]
Content-Disposition: inline
[ Attachment content not displayed ]
From: "wayne" <waynem@...>
Jul 20, 2006
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Do you foresee that Earthlink is going to drop the Mailstation service,
or are they going to continue providing it ??
YES, it would be interesting to know about the Xntd control. But I am sure
that an email server running the "Sendmail" program could have the program
changed to allow the use of the Control character if needed ??
Actually at $ 9.95 per month ( $ 12.95 for model 350 units), they should be
making some good profit on the
service ?? There is really not much that you need to supply to provide
that service, so hopefully they will
keep it. IF not, I hope that they will allow "openness" on the programming
and such for the units, so they
can be used for those that really NEED them.
I actually am finding that more Elderly people are looking at the service,
and I have put 2 units in service
for my Elderly relatives. Since these people have not grown up among
computers like we have, they are
"Computer literate", and are afraid of using a regular computer for email
service. But since they have used
a typewriter in their lifetime, the "Mailstation" is manageable for them !
I know that both my relatives were hesitant at first, but you would have to
break their arms to get their
Mailstations away from them now !!
Just wish I could find another Model 350 that worked good, or figure out why
this one I have won't switch
over to the correct account. The Model 350 is so much nicer to use !!!
Wayne
From: mailstation@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Govind C
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:48 AM
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mailstation] Dialup Access
1. The answer is no , I have come accross mailstations that had both
"Xtnd: OFF" as well as "Xtnd:ON" . On that note i really dont think it
matters. I could look further into this if you guys wish.
On 7/19/06, wayne <waynem@...> wrote:
Part of the problem is the mailstation uses the "Control X" (Xtnd)
character in it's
email sequences. Most email services will not except that as part of
the login,
and handshakes for email delivery.
Somebody probably could setup an email server that would work with this,
but
they would have to overcome 2 questions ??
1. Would using this particular email protocol be infringing on
Earthlink's patent?
And would they then get into a lawsuit from Earthlink over using it ?
2. How would they pay for the 800 number dial-up telephone lines to
access the system ???
You want the service for "FREE", but somebody has to pay for the
facilities somehow ???
Would you except SPAM delivered to you, with the money paid for that
advertising to pay
for the facilities ??? Or would you be willing to pay a monthly fee for
the email service ??
An 800 number would run about 5 cents per minute, with 2 calls per day
from the Mailstation,
about 2 minutes each, that is about $ 3.00 per month, plus the cost of
running the server unit,
the electric, and providing any accounting staff to handle your
payments. I would say that
you would need about $ 5.00 per month to break even.
Wayne
From: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf Of Walt
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 5:10 PM
To: mailstation@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mailstation] Dialup Access
1)
My wife just picked up a DET1 v2.55Y at a garage sale this weekend
for $2 and I've been trying to get it to work. I was able to reset
it and enter new info, but could only create one user account. Is
there a way to create additional users without calling EarthLink?
2)
I found a dialup ISP, www.bamnet.com, that has local dialup service
in the small town where an elderly aunt lives in Upper Michigan.
They charge only one cent per minute with a prepaid account. With
thousands of dial up numbers around the country, this looks like a
great option. I cannot get my email from my ISP once I am logged
into the internet, but I can use my company's email server to
receive messages, but not to send. I am currently setting up a test
Windows 2003 server for pop3 and smtp access and will experiment
with that here shortly.
3)
With great dialup access to the internet, wouldn't it be feasible
for someone to host a simple pop3/smtp server for use for
MailStation type of appliances? I realize protections are needed to
keep the spammers off, but that should be easy by limiting these
accounts to minimal settings needed for dialup and only a few
messages at a time, I would think. Does this sound reasonable to
you? If so, then why hasn't somebody done it?
4)
Are there any more of the free dialup ISPs left, or dialup email
providers? All of the big providers are having to lock down their
systems, charge for services, and create roadblocks that these
simple little mail terminals can't seem to handle without a major
effort to rewrite code and rewrite the PROMs.
5)
Do you think providing this type of service, particularly for the
elderly and perhaps specialty markets like RVers would be feasible?
Thanks,
PS If I can get everything to work I will be happy to publish all
the info I find, and about Bamnet, if you think it would be useful
to anybody on this group.
Govind.C
CLiENTLOGIC (CLI3L e-Services Ltd.)
Bangalore.
charset="iso-8859-1"
w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
work content -->
/HEAD>
615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Do you
foresee th=
at Earthlink is going to drop the Mailstation
service,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>=
ize=3D2>or are
they going to continue providing it ??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
=
s=
ize=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
ONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>YES,
it would be interesting to =
know about the Xntd control. But I am
sure</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
2>that
an email server running the "Sendmail" program could have the
prog=
ram</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
Arial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2>changed to allow the use of the Control cha=
racter if needed
??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>=
=
size=3D2>Actually at $ 9.95 per month ( $ 12.95 for model 350 units), they =
should
be making some good profit on the</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
ass=3D851150615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2>servi=
ce ?? There is really not much that you need to supply
to prov=
ide that service, so hopefully they will</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
ss=3D851150615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>keep
i=
t. IF not, I hope that they will allow "openness" on the
progr=
amming and such for the units, so they</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
=3D851150615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>can be
u=
sed for those that really NEED them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
=3D851150615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT><=
/SPAN> </DIV>
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I
actually am finding that more Elderly people a=
re looking at the service, and I
have put 2 units in service</FONT></SPAN>=
00ff size=3D2>for my
Elderly relatives. Since these people have not =
grown up among computers
like we have, they are</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
SPAN class=3D851150615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D=
2>"Computer literate", and are afraid of using a regular computer for email=
service. But since they have used</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
ass=3D851150615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>a
typ=
ewriter in their lifetime, the "Mailstation" is manageable for them
!</FON=
T></SPAN></DIV>
lor=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
0615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I know
that both=
my relatives were hesitant at first, but you would have to break their
ar=
ms to get their</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2>Mailstations away from them now=
!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
Arial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
=3D851150615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Just
wis=
h I could find another Model 350 that worked good, or figure out why this o=
ne
I have won't switch </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
0072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>over
to the correct ac=
count. The Model 350 is so much nicer to use
!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>=
=
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2>Wayne</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
150615-20072006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>=
</DIV>
gn=3Dleft><FONT face=3DTahoma
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>=
From:</B> mailstation@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailstation@...=
m]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Govind
C<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 19, 2006 =
9:48 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
mailstation@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=
[mailstation] Dialup
Access<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
ad both
"Xtnd: OFF" as well as "Xtnd:ON" . On that note i really dont th=
ink it
matters. I could look further into this if you guys wish. </DIV>
=
class=3Dgmail_sendername>wayne</B>
ge.net">waynem@...</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
=3Dgmail_quote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
yle=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">
=
m is the
mailstation uses the "Control X" (Xtnd) character in
it's</F=
ONT></SPAN></DIV>
2>email sequences. Most
email services will not except that as p=
art of the
login,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
lor=3D#0000ff size=3D2>and handshakes for email
delivery.</FONT></SPAN=
/SPAN> </DIV>
=3D2>Somebody probably could
setup an email server that would work wit=
h this, but</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
0000ff size=3D2>they would have to overcome
2 questions ??</FONT></SPA=
N></DIV>
=3D2>1. Would using this
particular email protocol be infringing on Ea=
rthlink's
patent?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
l color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>And would they then get
into a lawsuit from=
Earthlink over using it ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
Arial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
ONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>2. How would they pay for
th=
e 800 number dial-up telephone lines to access the system
???</FONT></=
SPAN></DIV>
want the service for
"FREE", but somebody has to pay for the facilitie=
s somehow
???</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
lor=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Would you except SPAM
delivered to you, with th=
e money paid for that advertising to
pay</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
?=
?? Or would you be willing to pay a monthly fee for the email service=
??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
0ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
olor=3D#0000ff size=3D2>An 800 number would run
about 5 cents per minu=
te, with 2 calls per day from the
Mailstation,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
=
h, that
is about $ 3.00 per month, plus the cost of running the server=
unit,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
0000ff size=3D2>the electric, and providing
any accounting staff to ha=
ndle your payments. I would say
that</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
V><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>you would need about $ =
5.00
per month to break even.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
=
SPAN> </DIV>
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=
title=3Dmailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com
href=3D"mailto:mailstati=
on@yahoogroups.com"
target=3D_blank>mailstation@yahoogroups.com</A> =
[mailto:<A
title=3Dmailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com
href=3D=
"mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com"
target=3D_blank>mailstation@yah=
oogroups.com </A>]<B>On Behalf Of
July 18, 2006 5:10 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
title=3Dmailto:mailstation@ya=
hoogroups.com
href=3D"mailto:mailstation@yahoogroups.com"
tar=
get=3D_blank>mailstation@yahoogroups.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[mai=
lstation] Dialup Access<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
wife just picked up a DET1 v2.55Y at a garage sale this
weekend <BR>=
for $2 and I've been trying to get it to work. I was able to
reset <=
BR>it and enter new info, but could only create one user account.
Is=
EarthLin=
k?<BR><BR>2)<BR>I found a dialup ISP, <A
title=3D(URL)
om href=3D"(URL)
target=3D_blank>www.bamnet.com</A=
small town where an elde=
rly aunt lives in Upper Michigan. <BR>They charge
only one cent per =
minute with a prepaid account. With <BR>thousands of
dial up numbers=
around the country, this looks like a <BR>great option. I
cannot ge=
t my email from my ISP once I am logged <BR>into the internet,
but I=
can use my company's email server to <BR>receive messages, but not
=
to send. I am currently setting up a test <BR>Windows 2003 server for pop3 =
and smtp access and will experiment <BR>with that here
shortl=
y.<BR><BR>3)<BR>With great dialup access to the internet, wouldn't
i=
t be feasible <BR>for someone to host a simple pop3/smtp server for use
=
for <BR>MailStation type of appliances? I realize protections are neede=
d
to <BR>keep the spammers off, but that should be easy by limiting =
these
few
e to
any more of the free dialup ISPs left, or dialup email <B=
R>providers? All
of the big providers are having to lock down their =
services, and create roadblocks that these <=
BR>simple little mail
terminals can't seem to handle without a major=
and rewrite the PROMs.<BR><BR>5)<BR>Do y=
ou think providing this type of
service, particularly for the <BR>el=
derly and perhaps specialty markets
like RVers would be feasible?<BR=
everything to work I will be hap=
py to publish all <BR>the info I find, and
about Bamnet, if you thin=
k it would be useful <BR>to anybody on this
group.<BR><BR></P></DIV>=
white"
width=3D"1"></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>=
clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR>Govind.C<BR>CLiENTLOGIC (CLI3L e-Services=
Ltd.)
E></BODY></HTML>